F-150 4X4 VS. LIGHTNING
2000 F-150 4X4 maybe i am reading the spec wrong but i thought the weight diff was only 71 pds--lightning curb wt=4670 and my 150 =4741. here you read them at:
http://www.ford-trucks.com/specs/2001_f150_1.html
and:
http://www.ford-trucks.com/specs/2001_lightning_1.html
mondo1 the holley does have an intercooler. i would have gotten a magnacharger if they didn't.
http://www.ford-trucks.com/specs/2001_f150_1.html
and:
http://www.ford-trucks.com/specs/2001_lightning_1.html
mondo1 the holley does have an intercooler. i would have gotten a magnacharger if they didn't.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by REDHOTL:
Blacklight, I was under the impresion that the fractured connecting rods were stronger than the traditional style due to an exact fit. If it was pure cost issue wouldn't all motors have this setup? What would your opinion on the Lightning intercooler be? Helpful to the engine? Or does that come with the Holey supercharger as well? To me the Lightning is an engineered package that is put together in a cost effective fashion
that I think would be difficult to replicate at the same price. Just my opinion, anyone is free to try whatever they like. </font>
Blacklight, I was under the impresion that the fractured connecting rods were stronger than the traditional style due to an exact fit. If it was pure cost issue wouldn't all motors have this setup? What would your opinion on the Lightning intercooler be? Helpful to the engine? Or does that come with the Holey supercharger as well? To me the Lightning is an engineered package that is put together in a cost effective fashion
that I think would be difficult to replicate at the same price. Just my opinion, anyone is free to try whatever they like. </font>
I think a intercooler in the middle of the V of a V8 is a very elegant idea. A leaking one is just shoddy engineering.
I agree, it would be impossible to put together at the price, and then you don't have factory warranty to back you up...
How about the transmission on the 4x4? Is that a 4R70? Would it be able to take the torque of a heavily modded engine like that?
It seems like the 4R100 is marginal for the 'Bolt, and the 4x4 we're talking about here would be approaching Lightning power levels.
It seems like the 4R100 is marginal for the 'Bolt, and the 4x4 we're talking about here would be approaching Lightning power levels.
Silver-y2k-svt
yup i think that maybe the weak side of the whole set-up and im sure it is a 4r70 because its a 139(138.8)wheel base and the 4r100 is on the 157(157.4)wheel base supercab 4x4. hope it can hold up, only because i won't be consistantly dragging everything in site(lol). guess i'll find out.
1998Nastruck
if it is maybe it will be ok--not going to have anything near 700# of torque(at least i don't think i will--lol)
[This message has been edited by Predator1 (edited 05-30-2001).]
yup i think that maybe the weak side of the whole set-up and im sure it is a 4r70 because its a 139(138.8)wheel base and the 4r100 is on the 157(157.4)wheel base supercab 4x4. hope it can hold up, only because i won't be consistantly dragging everything in site(lol). guess i'll find out.
1998Nastruck
if it is maybe it will be ok--not going to have anything near 700# of torque(at least i don't think i will--lol)
[This message has been edited by Predator1 (edited 05-30-2001).]
Actually, based on my experience, that 4R100 is built to withstand 100 lb./ft. of torque. That's got to be why Ford put in the power reduction during the 1-2 shift, 'cause without it my truck sure blew out those stock clutches in a hot second.
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I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
'84 Alan Record Carbonio, Aerospoke wheels, Campy brakes.
'00 SVT Lightning, silver, built 2/9/00, #133 of 4966, G-tech Pro, JBA headers, 4.10 gears, Swanson chip, Pro-M, NGK plugs, carbon drive shaft, Roadmaster suspension kit, TransGo shift kit, cam bolts, Jackson washers, Wet Okoles, Kenyon transmission
13.39 @ 102.5
2001 Kevlacat 2400, twin 115 Evinrude FICHT, Raytheon VHF, radar, autopilot and GPS chartplotter/fishfinder.
gmvye@pacbell.net
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I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
'84 Alan Record Carbonio, Aerospoke wheels, Campy brakes.
'00 SVT Lightning, silver, built 2/9/00, #133 of 4966, G-tech Pro, JBA headers, 4.10 gears, Swanson chip, Pro-M, NGK plugs, carbon drive shaft, Roadmaster suspension kit, TransGo shift kit, cam bolts, Jackson washers, Wet Okoles, Kenyon transmission
13.39 @ 102.5
2001 Kevlacat 2400, twin 115 Evinrude FICHT, Raytheon VHF, radar, autopilot and GPS chartplotter/fishfinder.
gmvye@pacbell.net
Actually, I believe the 4r70 is the wide ratio version of the AOD while the 4R100 is the wide ratio version of the E40D. The E4OD is very similar to a C6 with the overdrive and the pan is similarly shaped. I have the E4OD in my F250LD and as I understand in '99 or '00 you couldn't get that trans in the F150. They went back to the smaller 4r70.
When I purchased my truck, one of the criteria for my purchase was that it have the heavier transmission.
Phil
When I purchased my truck, one of the criteria for my purchase was that it have the heavier transmission.
Phil


