First, I have not yet made my decision on who's products to use. The only tuner I have had any contact with is JL(very helpful).But the way some of the tuners have responded to the events of the last couple of weeks has forced me to give my .02. I have read that this is not their full time job; That's not our problem, You are providing a service and you are making money, just like other business'. Whether you do it all day or in the middle of the night, doesn't matter. Im sure a lot of the people sending you inquiries aren't e-mailing you for the hell of it, they are considering buying some EXPENSIVE equipment from you. You have set up pro web sites and have attempted to look like a legitimate business. Do you put on your web site that this is not your full time job and you’ll get around to their inquiries when you get a chance. I might understand this for someone selling girl scout cookies, but people have to work their asses of to buy this stuff.

As with all types of business, you will have your happy customers, and your unhappy customers. You will always have people saying that your products suck. When I read a responses from a company saying “SAY IT TO MY FACE”, I no longer see that company as being very professional. When your selling merchandise as a legitimate business, your customers expect to be able to get competitive service. Your free to run your business how ever you please, but when you write crap like that DON’T expect sympathy from the people PAYING you good money for what you do!

I know you help people out with their questions, whether they have to do with your products or not. From what I have read, you want us to believe that you do this out of the kindness of your heart. Maybe, but I figure it because you have to too protect your company's rep. Im sure your doing a lot of people favors, but when you sell something, people usually have questions.

I may be off base with some of this stuff, but this is the opinion I have formed simply from reading this board.

You do a good job Doug.

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Matt
Black 2001
--Mods--(so far)
BedRug
Snug Lid
My Truck Pics: http://homepage.mac.com/lightningkid/PhotoAlbum.html



[This message has been edited by black2k1 (edited 05-28-2001).]

 

Ditto.

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Paul
'01 Silver L
Moderator: FASTasL at EFI-Street.com

 

i agree--can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.
i disagree the moderator can do what he wants--it his money.

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2001 F-150 4X4 Supercab
XLT 139" WB style side
5.4L V8 3.55 LIMITED SLIP AXLE
MODS:
AIRAID FIPK
SUPERCHIP(FLIP CHIP)
ROLL & LOCK TONNEAU

being installed as of 5/22/01
GIBSON CAT BACK
GIBSON HEADER
REFLEXX COBRA HOOD
STREET SCENE GRILL
HOLLEY THUNDER SUPERCHARGE
PILLER GAUGES

 

You da man Doug!

Im not saying that I like all of the fightnig, but I don't like being shut up before I can voice my opinion. If the people here want to talk about this in a civil manner w/o name calling I think they should be able to! All IMPO




[This message has been edited by black2k1 (edited 05-28-2001).]

 

I agree with all of the above. I gotta wonder however if these tuners use this same kind of judgement when tweaking the software on these chips?

 

Fo sheezie!!!!!!!!!!!!

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red 1994 lightning....oh my god i never expected this thing to keep running this long......130,000 miles and still running strong.........

00 white L...# 1993 build date 4/5/00 Johnny Lightning Enhanced!!! Straight pipe exhaust, billet third brakelight cover, water wetter, mobil 1 free things from ford...only for lightning owners....Clunking, Leaking and Rattling Package.....something like a trim package???

 

um.... ok....???

 

I don't see what the big deal is. All this discussion over chips which make a truck go about 1/2 second faster than stock and relatively no faster than the other guy's chip - in a 1/4 mile run. Big deal.

The cost: the same as 7 tanks of gas. Over two years, the cost is negligible.

Am I missing something?

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Regards,
George
george@spikeengineering.com
http://www.spikeengineering.com
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Red 2000 Lightning, #4033

1967 CJ-5 (0 - 3 mph: yes)
White 1996 Whippet (600 yard course, 6 turns: 40 Seconds)
Red Wheaton 1995 Ridgeback (1/2 loaf of bread, 6 bites, 4 seconds)
New addition:
2001 RR Puppy: 0 to stumble - next two months

 

I didn't realize that this stuff being expensive was in debate. $350 for a chip, $240 for a pulley, $180 for a filter kit,,, just a few of the products these guys sell. $770 for 3 things, like I said EXPENSIVE. I was just trying to let these guys know that they are doing a sh*ty job keeping their professionalism. And they are making it hard for me to trust them. I dont know who to trust!!

And damit,, you made me forget why I wrote all that in the first place! grrrr!!!

 

so you like to talk trash and waste your time over a gay chip? just like all the other L owners on here, all stupid. so u live in new braunfels? i'm over her onthe north side of san antonio. i've raced a couple of L's, all with ya'lls gay little "chip". it dosen't help worth sht. if you want to get your *** burned, reply to this sometime. we'll hook it up, and i'll burn you "bed rug" hardcore style.

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!
I Growll Louder!!!

I AM A TROLL PLEASE DISABLE MY ABILITY TO POST HERE !!

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forgot to put my damn sig. on, took me awhile to list it all, sighhh

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Black 99 SS camaro
"killa"
Super style wing, RS ground effects, t tops, Stock Z rims dipped in chrome, tinted windows, 6 speed
Mods- MAF screen removed, Moroso Cold Air Induction, Jamex Strut Tower Brace, SLP Headers, Pro 5.0 shifter, 160 thermostat, Aeromotive Billet Underdrive Pulley, Borla Catback exhaust, Mustgofaster Perfomance PCM tuning, ZR Supra 712's Tires, Boshe +4 plugs, performance

I WILL GO BACK TO INFECTING THE CHEVY FORUMS NOW !! SORRY FOR TROUBLING YOU

[This message has been edited by Silver_2000_! (edited 05-28-2001).]

 

im glad im going to the ranger side

 

I'm not going to flame you for being an obvious web troll Lightningslayer, but your list of mods does not exactly back up your claims of a "hardcore style" *** burning. Care to share some ETs? Cars at my local tracks with mods like yours go mid to high 12s. That's not exactly giving a Lightning an *** burning.

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SAL - TEAM PSP
web- www.powersurgeperformance.net
E-mail sales@powersurgeperformance.net
tech@powersurgeperformance.net
F-150 Online Supporting Vendor

 

Dude, It took you that long to write down all that junk on that piece of ***** cheby. The only reason you own one is because you can't afford a real vehicle. Bro. Get real.Loser!

 

The Lighting board is finally back to normal!

Hey lightningslayer, I'll race you with my Jeep. I gotta keep things fair.

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Regards,
George
george@spikeengineering.com
http://www.spikeengineering.com
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Red 2000 Lightning, #4033

1967 CJ-5 (0 - 3 mph: yes)
White 1996 Whippet (600 yard course, 6 turns: 40 Seconds)
Red Wheaton 1995 Ridgeback (1/2 loaf of bread, 6 bites, 4 seconds)
New addition:
2001 RR Puppy: 0 to stumble - next two months