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Old Apr 29, 2001 | 09:43 PM
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Anyone have any info on a magnuson blower snout replacement?I talked to a guy at mid michigan motorplex today who says he can replace the snout with a keyed version which you can interchange street/strip pulleys fast.He said he could do 15,20 lb boost versions and i am supposed to call him early nex't week to get the exact options and the snout changeover+ one billet pulley are supposed to cost around 350.00 He said this was something new from magnuson and he also said that with this new snout you could turn the blower 20,000+ without damage and get like 47hp and 68ft lbs tourqe.Has anyone else heard anything about this setup?At any rate i got a new best of 12.8631/4 8.2421/8th today with my year+ old swanson chip and a pro-m,mt e/t's,3.73 gear,straight pipes and svo t/b so it was a good day even if the above info doesn't pan out. later greg
 
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Old Apr 30, 2001 | 01:22 PM
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Hey Greg,
Keep us posted on what you find out here,someone has to be the guinea pig!LOL

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Old Apr 30, 2001 | 03:23 PM
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Don't hold your breath for 20lbs of boost. The Eatons may be able to generate that kind of pressure but the heat that will come with it will counteract any gains. Not a flame, just a fact.

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Old Apr 30, 2001 | 08:23 PM
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Matt it has to be better than the tourqemaster plugs.Silver-bolt i was actually quoted up to 25lbs,but i am not claiming anything personally,just thought i would check to see if anyone else heard of this.Dogleg, i will call the guy tommorow and try to get more info,he said there was only one test L so far that had this done but he had done a few of the gm eatons already.All i know so far is this guy knows how to install a stealth progressive nos systym on an ls1 that runs 11's,this is how i bumped into him by checking out the competition.He also mentioned something about a double intercooler for eatons that keeps the charged air 20 degrees cooler at all times, i wiil try and find out more about that also. later greg
 
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Old Apr 30, 2001 | 09:38 PM
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I B Fast,
this is Jeff, Sorry to miss you Sun. I went up Sat night, I cut my cats off and ran my pipes into the flowmasters, GAINED 2 tenths and 2mph by losing the cats.
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Old Apr 30, 2001 | 11:18 PM
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Hey jeff,part of that gain was probably from the vht they applied for the street tire shootout,as i was hooking better than last week and the guy from carson city ran a 13.50's by just removing his tailgate.I took my cats off last year in hot weather high 80,s,and went to the folowing t&t and gained a couple of mph,but not much in et but i was not using flows and have headers so who knows. How much t&t is there at the street tire shootouts on saturdays at stanton?
 
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Old Apr 30, 2001 | 11:40 PM
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This actually sounds like a really neat idea, however after thinking about it, I see a few problems with it. If I understand correctly, this is going to be a keywayed snout, like all other Eatons except ours use. That's a neat idea. But his boost claims I don't buy. There are currently two upper pulleys you can now buy. One sold by ASP is about 1-1.5 lbs and fits right on. The second is sold by SHM and gives about 2 lbs, but because of how small it is, you have to grind the ribs off the front of the snout to use. And that's just for a 2 lb pulley. In order to get 15-20 psi from the blower, think about how small the pulley would have to be. I can't see it even fitting on, and then you have to deal with massive amounts of belt slip with such a tiny pulley. As for this new snout allowing the blower to be safely reved higher, that's impossible. The snout has nothing to do with that. The snout shaft mates to the blower gear with a plastic joint collar. All it does it turn the blower. No way it can have any effect the integrity of the internals. While this new snout sounds like a really cool idea, it seems like it comes with a bottle of "Snake-oil" if you know what I mean .

I have contacts a Magnuson, I'll try to find out more details and pass them on.

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Old May 1, 2001 | 12:40 AM
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Let me be the first to say, "I want one also!". Let me know and I will get one with you. Thanks for the heads up on this.
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Old May 1, 2001 | 01:05 AM
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Sal, this is why i was asking,as some of the info he was quoting goes against a lot of what you and others have posted in the past.He did mention that running the eaton at these supposed rpm's would shorten the motor and blowers life, but that goes without saying.He said these billet pulleys were only available through him.I already told him i would only go as high as 15lbs of boost total, and even then only at the strip.I talked to the guy this morning and he is waiting to hear back from the r&d guy,but said the snout only has a 50% chance of making production,and if i get one,this would just be as a favor to a local racer.I have to call back late this afternoon or tommorow morning to get more info.

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Old May 1, 2001 | 02:13 PM
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I want to be the test truck, PLEASE.

keep us posted, this sounds like something I would love to do.

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Old May 1, 2001 | 04:17 PM
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I just spoke to Magnuson and they said this whole snout thing is BS. They are not making this piece, they are not happy that someone is claiming that they are making this piece, and they also read this post and said this persons claims are all BS. So be carefull if you decide to buy this based on claims alone. I know who the person making these claims is, but out of professionalism, I am not going to say. If someone else knows, feel free to fill everyone in.

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Old May 1, 2001 | 05:49 PM
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I think this guy thought the grand prix snout would fit are blowers,i talked to him today and he said in 60-90 days there would be a retro fitted bigger blower for the L that would be worth around 8/10ths,and that are superchargers would have a core exchange value.He is supposed to be getting one of the first ones and should know prices and exchange values by friday, but 90 more days and the season is almost over,assuming this new info holds any water.Sal, i doubt very much you know who this guy is, but feel free to let us know what you can find out about the latest info,i doubted the original claims but will see if the new info is for real.Like i said above this all came about by me asking about the possibility of a stealth progressive nitrous setup in the L,while checking out how one of the ls1's was in the 11's.I personally think if there gonna have an improved blower,that does not eat ic's alive,we L owners should each get one cheap.This source informed me that this snout would not have been available to the general public,this is info i did not get at the strip or i would not have posted in the first place.

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Old May 1, 2001 | 09:46 PM
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I've been watching this post and I would like to know who made some of these claims. Is your source willing to talk?
 
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Old May 1, 2001 | 10:57 PM
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Babolt, i am not about to post a name or # or anything else after reading the above as i have to see this guy somtimes at the strip. He is not a lightning tuner i can tell you that. This latest info on a new bigger replacement blower is supposed to be something that is available to everyone when its released.This intercooler as he called it, is really more of a heat exchanger,but when the numbers quoted were over 1100.00 i quit listening.The last thing i want is for somone to get in trouble,just because there misinformed,but enthusiastic about making the L quicker.After i talk to him on friday about pricing and core value, i will get you his name and number,but i won,t post it.
 
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Old May 1, 2001 | 11:52 PM
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Ib fast
Thanks. I am not looking to get your source into any trouble. I am just surprised by some of the information. I have heard a whole lot of stories lately. Thanks again.
 
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