I'm going through withdrawls already...sniff sniff. Thank God for Lightnings. This pic is low res, sorry.

 

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BadBolt:
Come to Maine we still have plenty of snow..

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BadBolt,
How do you like the Sno Pro? Did you have pretty good luck with it this year?
You look pretty good there, nice air! I sold my 01 Sno Pro right after I got it and bought a 01 Polaris Pro X 600.
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bggroth

This year was pretty awsome. I got in about 3,000 miles. In the end, I burned one piston and had the left front clicker fall apart (AS I WAS RIDING IT) two times (no locktite on shaft threads). The second time, it bent the shock shaft about 25 degrees. I had to totally remove the shock and ride 4 miles to Paradise, Michigan like I was side-hilling to a garage that could bend the shaft straight and weld the shock eyelet to the shaft so I could ride it back to Newberry. The guy charged me $5 and I proceeded to thrash the Sno Pro for 125 miles without incident. Just after it happened, I had to have a Doo guy give me a ride to try and find the spring seat that came off first about 600 feet back on the trail as the shock assembly was coming apart doing 40 mph. I guess Doo guys are useful for some things. I love that Sno Pro!

 

That kicks ***!
CA

 

BadBolt,
Waaaa cry the blues a little bent shock shaft, a little clicker problem, one little piston. No sympathy from me buddy--here's a pic of my Sno Pro after the first ride I went on this season. The good part was I did not sustain any bodily damage. The weekend after this crash, I wrecked bad on my CR500, unfortunately I sustained the damage on that one.



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Peter B

Holy 440 Batman, I always wondered what the bulkhead looked like on a Sno Pro.....thanks man! Be safe dude. BTW, what do those things cost??????

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Badbolt,
Hey, glad you didn't take my post negatively, I just had to write it that way for fun.

Anyhow, FYI, its a 99 ZR, so it's the prior generation body style to yours, however, I believe the bulkhead if not exactly the same as your's it should be damn close. The bulkhead was actually not that bad--$650. The whole parts bill cost me about $1000 which including 2nd day air shipment from Minnesota to Arizona. I did all the labor myself in my garage. It sucked--first ride of the season towards the end of the day, I hit a powder hidden tree stump at about 40 or so. The impact was real intense and launched the machine straight in the air. I hung on till I landed, but then was thrown, and then the machine headed straight for a tree--luckily stopped about 10 feet before the tree. We checked for damage, saw the bulkhead was destroyed, but figured I can still get it to the truck. As soon as I started moving, it vibrating terribly---I knew I had taken out the drive axle. Major parts were the bulkhead, drive axle assembly, jackshaft and drive axle bearings (just cause I figured they were stressed), and then Holeshot skidplate. Tons of rivets, nuts, bolts, etc. Got it all back together and rode it only one more time this season and everything was perfect. Didn't ride as my ACL was injured on my CR wreck.

FYI--not sure how your generation Sno Pro belly pan center section is, but on mine, it is a thin piece of plastic. The stump shattered the plastic and then it caught the lip of the bulkhead just under the heat exchanger and ripped it open. When I put it all together, I fabricated an aluminum center belly pan and then covered that with the Holeshot skidplate. If I would have had the Holeshot I bet I would not have sustained any damage. So, if you don't have one I would highly recommend putting one on.

So, hey, how much better does your Sno Pro run with the APV versus mine that has the old style exhaust valves? Did you have one like mine before, or have you run ones like mine? How does yours run compared to like a ZR600 or ZR700. I hear the APV 440 runs much much stronger.

 

Peter B

It's hard to believe that a skidplate could've prevented all that damage; but, it's true.

http://www.maximumsled.com/reviews/p...ate_review.htm

I bought a Z440 Sno Pro new before the 2000 ZR440; so, I can't say. Page bggroth and ask him. I believe can answere on the 99. All I know is my 2000 with timing set to full advance absoulutely leaves my buddies 2000 ZR600 Morgan special out of the hole; after about 60, he would pass me. The APV is maintainance free; so that's nice. I really love the riser bars compared to my old 99. I'm only a second year rider and now were're starting to go off-trail through heavily wooded areas and a skidplate is in my future. BTW, how many hours did you have start to finish. Great to hear that it came out perfect. Sno Pro's rock!

 

Badbolt,
Thanks for the info. Sounds like Cat did exactly what they were shooting for in the holeshot department. My Brother has a 98 ZR600 EFI and from a dead stop we run pretty even, but then at 50-60 he starts to pull me. Looks like yours run WAY stronger than mine. Sounds like it is the ultimate tight wooded trail machine. I love how super light they are and how great they handle. My buddies on their twin 7's and 8's kill me in the open, but the cannot even come close to me on the tight trails.

Hours, hmm. Considering I had an injured knee while doing the work which slowed me considerably. I'm gonna guess probably about 35-40 hours. I reused my old bellypan and there was alot of time spent removing the old rivets being very careful not to damage the belly, likewise all rivets from bulkhead to tunnel were slow to remove so as not to damage the holes. Total span was 1 week. But in the end, it was just like brand new again.

Here’s some more pics I figured you might enjoy:

How about that nice bend in the 1” solid steel drive axle!


Ready to install new bulkhead to tunnel, then remove suspension from old bulkhead and transfer to new bulkhead


More detail on the damage



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It's time to put the green one away and play with the bad *** red machine on 2wheels you got in the back of your garage picture.Cool toys!!!!!!

 

Peter B

I love the pics. How does the bulkhead fastent to the tunnel piece? rivits, screws, both. It's amazing to me how these things can take the beating they do. Your bulkhead really took it bad, man. About the trails, it's the lightweights that rule. And the Sno Pro is THE trial devil. I don't think I will ever own anything other than a Sno Pro if I can only have one sled. The chassis is just too good. I guess the only thing one could do to really surpass the power of the 440 is to go with a D&D or Black Magic 711. Dreamland right now for me, though. Getting the 01 Bolt is my purchase for this year. Maybe next season.

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Badbolt,
The entire bulkhead is head to the tunnel with steel rivets, likewise with bellypan to bulkhead. Yes, it truly is amazing the beating they take and hold together. You really would think it was even more amazing once you had it in pieces--the sections of the bulkhead that bolted to the tunnel were incredibly flimsy before everything was riveted together and became a single unit (kind of like if you have every built a balsa wood rc plane).

One of my buddies has a 99 like mine, but he has the black magic 711 kit. After he got his 01 that is the one he rides versus his 711. The 711 is not that impressive at all.

I know what you mean about their lightweight, but I just want alittle more power. So, I've been reading all the specs on sleds and I cannot believe the claimed weight on the new Ski-Doo MXZX platform. The MXZX 800 weighs 475 compared to the new ZR800 at 505. My Sno Pro is claimed at 460. So I'm thinking if the MXZX is only 15 pounds more, that won't be much at all, but having all that power would be nice. Problem is here in Arizona, its not like I can test drive one befor I buy it. Do you know what your Sno Pro is specd to weigh? Also have you ever ridden or do you have friends with any of the MXZX platform Ski-Doo's? How are they handling, performance, etc?

 

Peter B

I don't think the 00 SP is any different in the dry weight spec; if there is any difference, it's less than 5 lbs. either way. Our minds think alike. I, too, was looking at the MXZX800 for the exact same reasons. But passed because I got a good deal on the Cat. I ran into a guy with one this season and made sure to quiz him. His response to performance was that the power was a bit too much. I take that as a good sign. He was not a light weight rider. 30 lbs. sure does make a difference at the end of the day.