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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 11:09 PM
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Thanks Lurker,

That's just what I think .... some pooling up in the bottom. Skip is trying to clear up but I haven't driven but about 10 miles. If it starts to bother me too much I will change or at least pull #4 plug and clean it. What are you needing for the intercooler? What sort of adapter for the 2001 I/C to mate to a '99?

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There's a cast aluminum "plate" between the blower and the lower intake. The intercooler bolts to it. This and the intercooler make up the service kits that updated the 99/00 vehicles. The 99/00 had a plate but you can't bolt the improved intercooler to them and the 01-04 plates won't bolt to a 99/00 lower intake. Looks like the service kits might be going for around $300? I really haven't been paying attention.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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There's a cast aluminum "plate" between the blower and the lower intake. The intercooler bolts to it. This and the intercooler make up the service kits that updated the 99/00 vehicles. The 99/00 had a plate but you can't bolt the improved intercooler to them and the 01-04 plates won't bolt to a 99/00 lower intake. Looks like the service kits might be going for around $300? I really haven't been paying attention.
Yeah that's what I was told way back in 02 or so. Guess Whipple only made their kits for 99/00 trucks that had the upgraded intercooler and of course the 01 up kits.

Wonder if anybody bought a 99/00 Whipple kit that had the original intercooler? Would not fit.

Anyway I also have the upgraded midplate should sidewinder747 need it.

Good luck with the fix sidewinder...oh and like others have said I doubt your plugs will get better if bady fouled.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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Thanks Hilander and lurker,

Now as I understand it, the "fix" that Ford came up with was a kit that includes the I/C, Mod. Mid-plate and gaskets etc. The new I/C (2001-2004) won't match the original mid-plate, So the mid-plate is needed in addition to a later model I/C The kits I have been able to locate online run about $1460. and that will just put me back to normal operations before the failed I/C.

On the other hand if I upgrade to a Whipple or some other blower I will get a much better system in addition to a pile of horsepower. The Whipple site indicates the L blower upgrade is about $4600 for the polished blower. I would assume that that includes everything from the intake up, Right?

My next question is, because I'm a newbie at this blower thing are those of you that have upgraded to whipple happy with your system. are there any other blowers that are worth considering?

I mean if I through a wad of cash at this thing I want to be secure that I have the best or at least one of the best systems for a daily driver. I won't be taking it to the strip but when I mat it I like response.

The other thing is I keep reading about guys blowing out plugs and other such malfunctions. While these sort of things can be expected in race conditions and believe me I've done some pretty far out things looking for some edge in race motors, reliability and longetivity are the most important factors. (it's the...in order to finish first, first you must finish thing). How far is too far for a daily driver.

I have had this truck for about 4 years and it has been just great. But I don't have a clue what the other owner did or did not do to it. Now that the I/C has layed down on me I must assume Nothing. However when I punch it the boost goes to the peg at 10 pounds. Is that the norm? I read here about 4# boost and 6# boost. How is that measured other than the gage?

The S/C pulley (the upper on the blower itself) measures 3.25 inches in diameter. Is that stock? What is the dia of the stock pulley. How can I find out what chip is installed?

I don't want to push my luck with you guys you have been very helpfull but If you have the answers to my questions I would be greatfull.

Thanks,
Dan (AKA Sidewinder)
 
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 04:00 PM
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Dan,

No problem trying to help out

The 3.25 is the stock upper. Have a looka at the lower pulley. If it has a rubber front it is stock too. Boost was supposed to be 8 psi stock. The stock gauge is not very accurate. The cold weather will also give a bit more boost.

As for shooting plugs. Your year of truck only has 4 threads in the heads. Normal driving can still see a plug pop out. Best bet is to check your plugs every 3000 to make sure they are still snug. Other than that you can have certs fitted. IMO checking them will be good enough.

You do realise that none of the aftermarket superchargers come with an intercooler? You would still have to find a good intercooler on top of the price of the kit.

There are plenty people running with aftermarker charger on otherwise stock motors. Just don't be greedy for power and all should be fine.

Hope thast helps a bit.

PS this guy has a new type intercooler for sale.

http://www.nloc.net/vbforum/gen-2-li...ml#post1525154

You should get in touch with him
 

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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sidewinder747
Now as I understand it, the "fix" that Ford came up with was a kit that includes the I/C, Mod. Mid-plate and gaskets etc. The new I/C (2001-2004) won't match the original mid-plate, So the mid-plate is needed in addition to a later model I/C The kits I have been able to locate online run about $1460. and that will just put me back to normal operations before the failed I/C.

Thanks,
Dan (AKA Sidewinder)
$1460, really? Wow, I'm gonna be rich!

Seriously, you'll be able to find one for less. $300-400, I'm guessing. Like I said, I have one of the kits, used but leak checked and pretty clean. You can pretty easily re-use the gaskets.

I'm curious about where you saw one for $1460, got a link?
 
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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Hey lurker,
I was wrong it was $1415 at: https://www.tituswillfordparts.com/o...s_catalog.htmlhttp://www.tituswillfordparts.com/oe_parts_catalog.html

Part number is XL3Z-9424-9424-AB

Also found new intercooler for $495 so it's getting better.

I will get the good guy price somewhere. Don't mind used 'cause I will pressure test anything else that goes on. (I don't want to do this but once).
There should be plenty of this stuff around where I live. Ha I hope. Maybe I will find a used Whipple setup reasonable. Somewhere there is a junkyard with a crashed out L that has all the good stuff.

I am looking forward to getting this "tumor"out of my truck. I want to see what failed and how. R&R I not enough I have to see the failure and understand it. Can't help it, I'm just like that.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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For Hilander:

I found an intercooler but the part number on the cooler is XL3V 6K775 AA. I think this might be a later model I/C than the '99.

Would that midplate you have fit this intercooler and bolt to my intake? I trying to find out what model that part number is now.

With the known problems with the '99 '00 I/Cs I don't think I would want to replace my bad one with another cooler that might go bad soon after I fix it.

Another thing is any of you know if anybody ever tried to have a good radiator shop re-solder a leaking intercooler. I know some guys that are pretty good with this type of repair.

Dan
 
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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My replacement Garrett intercooler is part no: IL3V-6K775-O

Garrett part no is 720364

It also has a manufactured date on Nov 01 on it.

Hope that helps.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sidewinder747
For Hilander:

I found an intercooler but the part number on the cooler is XL3V 6K775 AA. I think this might be a later model I/C than the '99.

Would that midplate you have fit this intercooler and bolt to my intake? I trying to find out what model that part number is now.

With the known problems with the '99 '00 I/Cs I don't think I would want to replace my bad one with another cooler that might go bad soon after I fix it.

Another thing is any of you know if anybody ever tried to have a good radiator shop re-solder a leaking intercooler. I know some guys that are pretty good with this type of repair.

Dan
I would never recommend repairing a '99-'00 cooler. There are multiple possible leak points and you'd have to attempt repair/re-enforcement on all of them. The "good" coolers will all start with 1L3V-.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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My first L was a 99 with 20k miles.

I lost water in my IC and found out the previous owner had not taken it in for warranty replacement. By the time I got the truck the recall was done so I paid for it out of my own pocket.

The FOMOCO replacement cooler was the same size as the later modles but used the early 99-00 bolt pattern. It was a stock simple swap out and took 2.5 hours and not having done it before. I reused the base gasket and had no problem.

I also was told not to worry about it unless under boost. The factory boost gauge would show above the numbers in the black without the water. Of course as soon as I relized there was no more coolant I unplugged the electric circ pump. In fact as I recall it was already unplugged and I plugged it back in and fill the resavoir ounce only to have it disappear.

Leak issue aside...... I also noticed durring the few weeks I ran it with no fluid that there was a new noise when I would lift the hood and check. When I took off the intercooler resavoir cap it was sucking air threw the leak (lean)????? I could hold the palm of my hand over the cap opening and it would suck it down durring high vacum at idle.

Back then the replacement intercooler was $700 . It is no longer available and supplies ran out.

Maybe someone doing a built engine or swapping out superchargers has one of the older upgraded ones.
Remember the eaton super charger base and intercooler was different in 99-00 only
 
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