Darwinism, gene pools and deselection. Anybody that thinks the health effects are minimal need to see some brain autopsy slides of users. With that said, all I ask is that you don't let your personal choices impact others.

As Rodney Dangerfield said, "The world needs ditchdiggers too."

Make that the Judge (Smails???) from CaddyShack. ...I must have been spacin'

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I think its pretty safe to say that about half of the people in highschool these days smoke weed ever now and then. And I say that about one of every twenty or so are complete stoners.

 

For me- no.
For you...I don't care as long as you're not driving, working with machinery, or in a job where clear judgment is critical. It should be mandatory for IRS agents, people who work at dept store customer service counters, and car salespeople.
However, I think there should be a surcharge on your medical insurance, no different than any other smoker.

 

weed is fine, i used to be a mega stoner, used to have alot of fun to, i decided to grow up. it never hurt me in anyway. if we could go back and change time 100s of years ago, it would have been a better thing to legalize than booze. but its to late now to do anything about it, any solution would cause a problem.

 

First observation, most prefaced thier comments with a denial of drug use, some in detail. It is obvious why nobody would own up to it, the point is how will change be effected if those who support it are afraid to speak out. Maybe because not all of them gave it up, or just the stigma of saying drugs are ok.

Gateway drug = an introductory drug, easily available to the novice, popular, relativly cheap. "potentially" leads to other substance abuse. Marajuana? Noway mom, dad, its good ole Mr. Booze as Bing would sing. Alcohol is our biggest drug problem in the US if you look at damage to person and property. It fits the "Gateway" description far better than any other drug, and it should, its legal, for adults. Its socially acceptable, for who? adults and teens? mid teens? late teens?

One drink and i'm loaded, i dont drink, rare occassions only, 2 and i'm too bad to really drive, seriously. To those who smoke marajuana there is a tolerance similar to alcohol. To say otherwise show a lack of knowledge in the area, sad, but true. Nobody should drive under the influence, period. in my book thats all drugs starting with alcohol. Dont fool yourself, its as much a drug as the rest. Most similar heroin in its psychological and physical addictive properties. You've heard of AA? How many murders, beatings, divorces, car accidents and more aoccur each year related to alcohol. You will have a very very difficult time finding anything remotely like that related to marajuana use. The data just doesn't support marajuana as the devels weed.

Is pot good, noway, is any drug abuse good, noway, is recreational use of drugs an acceptable behavior in the 21st century US, not yet. Should it be, moot question, it already is, its just not open. Can we make it go away, can you make sex go away? Can you make air travel go away? Its here and its not going anywhere. Is that bad, is an occassional drink for a non alcoholic bad? Depends, but it think its a reality for many.

We'd all be better off without drugs, you know i mean abuse drugs, thats idealism. Many Americans and others like to relax with a drug, alcohol openly, other things in privite, thats realism.

I'll watch and see, my concerns are the money we put in politicians and guerilla criminals hands in the name of the "drug war". Along with the huge amounts of money we spend to put users in jail, or nickel and dime pushers providing to ? you? me? the Nieghbor, somebodies buying all this crap or it wouldn't be here, wake the hell up! Unlike when i was 20, i got answers now, not just complaints. Problem users to rehab instead of ruining the rest of thier lives with prison, damn. Big dealers in jail, but i'd rather legalize and regulate. Give up the notion its going away, it isnt, now deal with it the best we can. All that money, rehabs instead of jails when needed for the "drug" problems. Unfortunately there is so much money going into pockets "fighting the drug war", including the propaganda thats pushed it'll be another 100 years before it happens. So if you use, you better keep hiding it, or quit.

"Just Say No!", what a sad pitaful response. I had hopes with Clinton. I fear for all our lives now and it has nothing to do with drugs. Damn, the economy sure has taken a sudden crap, whats up with that GW? Ohh you inherited that, it was fine before and it would a been fine now, but the guy most of us voted for is teaching college, God Bless America, God help us All.

This has been a paid announcement of the "People shouldn't do dope, but do anyway foundation".

Oh ya, IMHO

Dang, the medical use, it's absolutely stupid to not use it fot things its good for because its on some damn list, take it off, doh. Oh and geez, whats with the "brain slides" from an autopsy, i must have missed that in my research and studies. you are right, we need ditch diggers too son.

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[This message has been edited by Reddawgy (edited 03-10-2001).]

 

I smoked it but didn't inhale.

 

Thankfully, I stopped using marijuana when I was 15 years old. I'm now 28.

I do believe it is a stepping stone to other/more severe drugs. (experience and observation of others).

I thank God for the "traumatic event" that caused me to stop using when I was 15. Who knows where I'd be now. Better yet, WHAT I would be.

The effects it has on people all differ, for me it was paralyzing and in the wrong company.

It's illegal, I like it that way.

My $.02

 

Sorry NFS that was uncalled for, just pushed my button. They used to say pot decreased male hormones and could allow for breast development, it stopped listening to that crap then. When i read about these things now its in health related publications. If people would not spread BS about things and just tell the truth kids might trust them. Pots bad enough without making ***** up. Im sure you believe what you saw, i'd need to the research first.
Anyway, sorry for the shot.

 

Hey,

It Get's girls HORNEY !!!

Of course it should be legal...

 

How many accidents are there involving drunk drivers EVERYDAY in the U.S. alone? Now take that number and compare it to the number of accidents of people who were stoned. BIG difference. Pot is illegal, yes. But compared to alchohol, or any other drug (including nicotine) pot is nowhere close to them. You dont get raging mad and start fights, you dont freak out like a bad trip, etc. Plus, with as slow as you act stoned, you actually go UNDER the speed limit and drive very carefully. My philosophy:if you smoke it, cool. if you dont, cool. besides, im sure the government will legalize it sooner or later because of the tax money they can recieve out of it.

 

Excuse me? Are you certain? My experiences tell me differently, but maybe that a**hole was under the same impression you are.


Another thing, does anyone really believe the idea of taxing marijuana is a recent thing?? This arguement has been passed around for years. It has remained illegal.

 

Why can't we go back to the good ole days when you bought a Coca Cola and really got the real thing (cocaine), LMOA. This is true.

I grew up in the 60's thru 70's and lived Fast Times at Ridgemont High. I don't know why most people don't have the ***** to say they smoked it and damn well enjoyed it when they were younger. As far as this soapbox crap about driving, save it. Alcohol is a far worse substance to be under the influence of while driving than Pot. Alcohol makes you agressive and want to speed. Pot makes you passive and want to go with the flow. As a teenager and young adult I can't remember any of my peers having any kind of major accident from being too stoned but there were a lot of wrecks from being too drunk. Yes, you do build up a tolerance if you smoke it regularly which means you need to smoke more to get the same buzz that occasional smoker gets off of a couple of hits. It's just like antibiotics given to children too often. They are not as effective. If you want proof then smoke it 2 to 3 times a day for a couple of months and see if it doesn't take more to get the same buzz otherwise quit your whining.

As far as it being a gateway drug then I would have to say yes and no. Yes, from the standpoint that most people start off with it because it's mild and pretty safe. No, from the standpoint that if there was no pot then something else would be the gateway drug but people that have an addictive personally always want more and better regardless.

Should it be legalized, maybe. I hate to see kids go jail for small amounts of pot. The war on drugs is another joke that could have it's budget cut if pot were legal. The farmer could make money. They could tax it to hell and back like gas to decrease our federal taxes. I'm on the fence on this one. I think if I had smoked less of it as a teenager and young adult I would have been more motivated to getting ahead and not dropping out of college in the first semester. I went back to college at night while working a fulltime job 10 years after I dropped out. It was tough but I got through it. It sure would have been easier to do it right the first time.

Now days a few beers on the weekend is about all I can stand and sometimes I don't even get that. I wouldn't trade my experiences for anything but sometimes pot can get you off the path you are trying to take.

Stepping down from soapbox. Next!!!

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[This message has been edited by LTNBOLT (edited 03-10-2001).]

 

LOL, go gettem Trace, i didnt buy that one either

 

I knew that eventually one of the "experts" will come out of the woodworks. I'm curious, besides running out and buying your next best seller, where exactly are you getting your research material?
If I can get one piece of scientific evidence that THC has a tolerance level, then I will be corrected.

One point that will never be disputed: Alcohol is the #1 abused substance.

As far as the laughable concept that MJ drivers are better drivers...wow, there is now actual legitimicy in the gene pool theory.

Not attempting to flame here, just offering my "un-informed" opinion.