my spindles with the "hack-job shavedown" tim spoke of (lol) have the tie-rod mounted from the bottom...not the top as shown in this pic.

 

do you have a pic, and how is your perceived bump steer.

 

Stare at my post again and it will become clear to you that my post said nothing about whether flipping the tie rod would help with bump steer. It was in response to you post "Another thing to note is the increased responsivness the spindles had to steering inputs, almost too much responsivness, this will hopefullybe reduced slightly with the relocation of the flipped tie rod."

I don't see how flipping the tie rods will reduce steering responsiveness. Remember, as so well stated by Steeda: "Bump-steer is built into the geometry of the suspension and steering system, and has nothing to do with turning the steering wheel."

I completely understand why the flip would mitigate bump steer. That's why we are talking about it.

You can come to my garage any time. But I don't think that I'm letting you anywhere near my bong.

 

Remind us -- are you running 18s?

 

Just what we need, more bump steer perceptions.

 

Eat some chocolate Tim, Uzfraba........

 

yes...running 18s. i'll get a pic up asap.

 

here ya go. the tire is rubbing on the fender liner where i have a 4" tube running down behind it from the bottom of the air box.

yes tim that's the half-nut. still had to use it even with the counter-sink (moog ball-joints with their large castle nut).

 

That's what I'm talkin about homeboy! NOW CLEAN YOUR TRUCK!



Thank you very much

 

hey...it sleated, snowed and rained here today. dang it, it's a DD ya know.

 

It's ok I cheated a bit those pictures were taken a week after installing new lower and upper control arms and the spindles....LOL

look at my 1 week rust on the moog parts...

 

Thanks, Gary.

Just eyeballing it, that tie rod geometry looks great. If anything, it looks a tad low. Since there is bump steer on a base F150 (it's designed into most suspensions), which is made worse with the stock Lightning drop springs (tie rod moving up), which is made even worse with aftermarket drop springs, then maybe it's possible that a tie rod lower than parallel would zero out whatever bump steer is designed into the base F150.

Did you notice whether it was roughly parallel to the lower control arm when you were installing it?

The real problem with all of this new information is that I now see hundreds of dollars of new tools (e.g., I'm just going to have to get a bump steer gauge now), hours of R&D, and more machining in my future. Two steps forward, one step back.

 

Finally Tim comes around....

I was flipping tie rods for years on my R/C cars to improve the handling....thank god BT figured it out, umm well I figured it out on my own and came to the same answer....you're wlecome Tim....

I'll make you a nice R/C Lightning body one of these days for being such a good pal.

 

I'm not sure what I "came around to." If you are talking about flipping the tie rods, go back and re-read. When you posted the info about the raised mounting point, the only solution that you suggested was "offset tierod ends."

It was in fact your humble correspondent who first suggested flipping the tie rods. . . . you're welcome, Ian.

 

can't help poking the bear once in a while buddy

at least if i was in LA i could do this parts swap in the comforting warmth of your garage, as it stands now i will have to reassemble my front end in below freezing conditions