Would anyone be interested in an AWD Lightning
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A fast drag car leaves with 100% of the weight on the rear tires, so AWD wouldn't really be an advantage at the strip. Maybe on the roadcourse, but thats a lot of extra weight and mechanical complexity.
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Originally posted by rscoleman
A fast drag car leaves with 100% of the weight on the rear tires, so AWD wouldn't really be an advantage at the strip. Maybe on the roadcourse, but thats a lot of extra weight and mechanical complexity.
A fast drag car leaves with 100% of the weight on the rear tires, so AWD wouldn't really be an advantage at the strip. Maybe on the roadcourse, but thats a lot of extra weight and mechanical complexity.
If AWD were allowed, the weight would be shifted to the front to keep the front end planted and biting.
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Originally posted by Duende
Besides the Monster Box, what else is involved?
Besides the Monster Box, what else is involved?
Differential, new axles, new front end, new computer. Most of the parts could be found on a wrecked navigator in a junkyard, and almost all of them are straight up bolt ons.
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I know crap about AWD and 4X4 applications, but I'm wondering with this setup could you put it back into RWD at like the 60ft mark during a 1/4 mile pass? Or are we talking about a system that is AWD all the time whether you want it or not?
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I'm no expert on 4x4 or AWD, but here's my take on the subject.
Performance AWD systems usually split the power F/R 30/70, and vary the torque split by putting the power to the end/side that isn't spinning (Porsche, Audi, Lamborghini, etc.) AWD systems focused on economy put all the power to the front wheels, and shift power to the rear when wheelspin is detected(minivans.) Almost all use a hydraulic link F/R that is computer controlled to vary the torque split, and most are totally transparent to the driver on the street. The more sophisticated ones are tied into the stability systems and can vary power to manage under/oversteer and yaw control.
Most racing organizations either outlaw AWD or penalize it. It's major benefits are traction at low speed, more balanced tire wear, and more stability under acceleration and braking. It's disadvantages are added weight and complexity, and more drivetrain HP absorption; these lead to slightly less gas mileage and top speed. These can be offset by using a narrower tire unless the oranization mandates a spec tire.
I'd like to see an AWD L, but it would have to be a very robust system to withstand the torque and weight of the L.
Performance AWD systems usually split the power F/R 30/70, and vary the torque split by putting the power to the end/side that isn't spinning (Porsche, Audi, Lamborghini, etc.) AWD systems focused on economy put all the power to the front wheels, and shift power to the rear when wheelspin is detected(minivans.) Almost all use a hydraulic link F/R that is computer controlled to vary the torque split, and most are totally transparent to the driver on the street. The more sophisticated ones are tied into the stability systems and can vary power to manage under/oversteer and yaw control.
Most racing organizations either outlaw AWD or penalize it. It's major benefits are traction at low speed, more balanced tire wear, and more stability under acceleration and braking. It's disadvantages are added weight and complexity, and more drivetrain HP absorption; these lead to slightly less gas mileage and top speed. These can be offset by using a narrower tire unless the oranization mandates a spec tire.
I'd like to see an AWD L, but it would have to be a very robust system to withstand the torque and weight of the L.
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why do you think the WRT STI, and the EVO (whatever number they are up to now) are so dang quick?
Because instead of spinning the tires off the line, they Launch thanks to AWD!
This would be great for Auto-X and street racing (where traction is an issue) However at the track, with Slicks, Not many lightnings have problems with traction,
This would be a GREAT setup for street racing
Because instead of spinning the tires off the line, they Launch thanks to AWD!
This would be great for Auto-X and street racing (where traction is an issue) However at the track, with Slicks, Not many lightnings have problems with traction,
This would be a GREAT setup for street racing
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Well, when I get my seperation check from the Army, I'll try to convince my wife to let me do it. Not sure, though. She has crazy ideas about "saving money," and putting it towards something called the future. Bleh.
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AWD is all time all wheels pull with traction control. The traction control sents the tq to the wheel with more traction and less to the wheel with less traction.
That's the way my Denali worked, you could not break the tires loose in any situation other than black ice. Wet slippery road in any other vehicle including a 4x4 you can break em loose and slide all around. With AWD you can give it your best and you will not slip, slide, or even spin on slippery surfaces, of course tq management played a role as well.
4x4 has the potential for one wheel in front pull and one wheel in the rear pull.
And I would not be interested in converting to AWD or 4x4. Slicks work for me with less weight than an all wheel drive solution, and I don't street race...........
That's the way my Denali worked, you could not break the tires loose in any situation other than black ice. Wet slippery road in any other vehicle including a 4x4 you can break em loose and slide all around. With AWD you can give it your best and you will not slip, slide, or even spin on slippery surfaces, of course tq management played a role as well.
4x4 has the potential for one wheel in front pull and one wheel in the rear pull.
And I would not be interested in converting to AWD or 4x4. Slicks work for me with less weight than an all wheel drive solution, and I don't street race...........
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Originally posted by Factory_Tech
...I have done an AWD Lightning tranny, I think the guy used a Navi front end and differential, but after I shipped the box, I never heard any more about it. I'm kind of curious how it all worked out. Maybe I'll try to find where and who I sent it to and how it worked out....
...I have done an AWD Lightning tranny, I think the guy used a Navi front end and differential, but after I shipped the box, I never heard any more about it. I'm kind of curious how it all worked out. Maybe I'll try to find where and who I sent it to and how it worked out....
Did you ever track this person down?
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I'm still interested in doing this. Getting my seperation check in about a month, and I'm divorced now. Mwahahaha, no more of that "saving for the future" crap from the wife. 
Gregg, I'd like to talk to you about doing this, especially if you know a good shop that could do the work. Maybe Sal or JDM, or somebody, would be interested...
Gregg, I'd like to talk to you about doing this, especially if you know a good shop that could do the work. Maybe Sal or JDM, or somebody, would be interested...
