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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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R1 concepts Rotors and Brakes??

Has anyone had any experience with the Rotor and Pad combo from R1 concepts.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...DVW#about%20us

My front brakes are almost done and i've been told my rotors are a little on the rusty side. I was looking at the rotors from RotorPros but they are a little more expensive.

Tony
 
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 01:51 AM
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Has anyone had any experience with the Rotor and Pad combo from R1 concepts.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...DVW#about%20us

My front brakes are almost done and i've been told my rotors are a little on the rusty side. I was looking at the rotors from RotorPros but they are a little more expensive.

Tony


I got them on my ranger. their awsome so far. and they dont rust.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 06:55 AM
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ive used the rotors, which are great, no problems so far, but dont use the pads
 
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 07:01 AM
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For the complete set thats an AWESOME price, I may have to buy a set
 
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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Ordered a set for my 2000 4x4, should be in late this week. I'll let you know how they work out. I did not get thier pads.

The L got the AP Racing brake kit.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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Thanks for the replies

Sounds like the rotors are pretty good but the pads might be crap.

I think im gonna get a set of their rotors and maybe some of these Hawk HPS pads i've been hearing about.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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Personally I say stay away for a couple of reasons. Flame suit on to fire away. #1 zinc plating rotors is bad news. Might look nice but you run the risk of hydrogenembrittlement during the plating process. In a nut shell that means if hydrogen is introduced to the the metal it will crack and possibly shatter. The harder the material the more likely the potential. #2 zinc plating acts as a lubricant. It makes metal slippery. Not something you want on brake parts. Reading their own description they state that the drilled holes allow for more air flow. Not true. The only purpose drilled holes are for is vent the hot gasses away from the pads. On the street they are worthless. The slotting is more than enough. The holes are just cracks waiting to happen. Chances are that is they do not know the proper purpose of cross drilling rotors then they know very little about plating and proper drilling as well. If you need a high quality rotor for track work look elsewhere.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Ive had to stop a 8500lb load pretty quick, and MANY instant slow downs from 100-50 and never had a crack or warping... I have the hawk HPS pads too.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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For the price they are worth a shot. Maybe sometime this season I will be ready for a brake job.
Jim
 
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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Just throwing my .02 worth of experience. For me brakes are not something I am will to comprimise on. You may get many thousands of miles and have no issues and maybe the first time you need them they fail.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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For the price they are worth a shot. Maybe sometime this season I will be ready for a brake job.
Sorry but to read those famous last words!I have learned the hard way on this subject and it was WAY more expensive than the cost of gold plated rotors!And drilling does cause crakcs and I bet I can look at your drilled rotors that have miles on them and see the cracks.I saw them on a F-40 ferrari at sema even and those were bembos'.STan
 
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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I ran Ruslow (stan's) rotors with hawk pads before going to big brakes and they are in such great shape after 35,000 miles the rotors are now going on my freinds Lightning. you absolutley get what you pay for.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 07:55 AM
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The price is low for a reason.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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. . . And drilling does cause crakcs and I bet I can look at your drilled rotors that have miles on them and see the cracks.I saw them on a F-40 ferrari at sema even and those were bembos'.STan
Cracking is a known issue. But there have never been any cracks on my Brembo cross-drilled fronts (second set) or my Powerslot rears. None.

Granted, I don't work them that hard when I open track, I use rotor-friendly pads, and I allow them to cool down properly. But slowing down from 140 to go into the infield section at the California Speedway, there is no way to be easy on the brakes.

Cross-drilling does several things. First, it allows for outgassing. But slots do that as good or better, and outgassing is not much of a problem with modern pads. Second, it scrapes away dust from the pad/rotor interface. Third, it reduces rotor weight. Not really relevant on a farm implement. Fourth, with all due respect to Silver-Bolt, it provides extra cooling. But that is insignificant for our use.

So basically, as Silver-Bolt says, "cross-drilling is useless on a street car."

But I still like them -- just because they look speedy cool. Especially on a freakin truck. And they make cool sounds when you brake.

p.s. -- both my Brembos and my Powerslots have a gold-colored coating. I'm assuming that it is some sort of zinc or cadmium plating. Zero problems.
 

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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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When I finally replaced my brembo cross drilled with slotted ones, I did have some microfactures starting to show on the rotors...this was after a lot of race miles though. No large cracks just looked like little "splinters" starting to show...of course at the same time, the rotors were already at their minimum thickness, so it was replacement time none the less...so for me, the cross-drilled did last as long as the rotor without issue.

I just go slotted these days to not worry about it.

As far as the lubricant side of it...just like power coating rotors etc, be careful until you wear through the area of brake-pad contact.

I think unless you are racing like Beast or Stan, you'll survive with cross-drilled rotors...

--Dan
 
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