Stock Mids vs High Flow Mids??
Stock Mids vs High Flow Mids??
What is the benefit of High Flow Mids over stock mids? I know that they will be louder which I like but is there any other reason to get them?
Thanks
Damon
Thanks
Damon
What Mods to you currently have ???
It's one of those "it's 1 piece of the big puzzle Mod's"
On a Race truck looking to squeeze ever ounch of ET the full meal exhaust system becomes a big part, you got to get more out of the motor if you plan on utilizing putting more into it. BUT on a lightly modded truck the results prob cant be measured and as you said it just becomes a sound system.
It's one of those "it's 1 piece of the big puzzle Mod's"
On a Race truck looking to squeeze ever ounch of ET the full meal exhaust system becomes a big part, you got to get more out of the motor if you plan on utilizing putting more into it. BUT on a lightly modded truck the results prob cant be measured and as you said it just becomes a sound system.
Originally Posted by Rob_99Lightning
What Mods to you currently have ???
It's one of those "it's 1 piece of the big puzzle Mod's"
On a Race truck looking to squeeze ever ounch of ET the full meal exhaust system becomes a big part, you got to get more out of the motor if you plan on utilizing putting more into it. BUT on a lightly modded truck the results prob cant be measured and as you said it just becomes a sound system.
It's one of those "it's 1 piece of the big puzzle Mod's"
On a Race truck looking to squeeze ever ounch of ET the full meal exhaust system becomes a big part, you got to get more out of the motor if you plan on utilizing putting more into it. BUT on a lightly modded truck the results prob cant be measured and as you said it just becomes a sound system.
Mods are as follows:
Ported blower, ported heads, 2lb upper, 4lb lower, sbtb, cai, tune, cat back
Not really looking for extra power from the high flow mids but anything gained it always a plus. I just wanted to know if there is anything to be gained other then the nice sound she will be making.
high flows.........
high flow mids are the way to go.
I agree that they are the restriction of the exhaust.
Couple local guys put out some good numbers on just high flow cats.
I agree that they are the restriction of the exhaust.
Couple local guys put out some good numbers on just high flow cats.
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Stock exhaust and cats: 10 psi back pressure at full throttle!
Full Bassani set-up w/Bassani: 5 psi
Full Kooks set-up with Manaflow cats: 3 psi
I have not measured my catless Bassani mid pipe on my otherwise bone stock set-up, but sure it will be 3 - 1 psi.
All the backpressure is in the cats, that's why catbacks do not add any power, more than 1 psi back pressure is considered restrictive, particularly with a N/A motor. The performance disadvantage is less dramatic with SC motors, but still there.
Full Bassani set-up w/Bassani: 5 psi
Full Kooks set-up with Manaflow cats: 3 psi
I have not measured my catless Bassani mid pipe on my otherwise bone stock set-up, but sure it will be 3 - 1 psi.
All the backpressure is in the cats, that's why catbacks do not add any power, more than 1 psi back pressure is considered restrictive, particularly with a N/A motor. The performance disadvantage is less dramatic with SC motors, but still there.
Last edited by BigBobsL; Dec 21, 2006 at 10:10 PM.
I always thought that replacing the mids wasn't necessary on lightly modded trucks and that you could lose some tq. I really really want to wake up the L sound wise w/ a set of highflow mids, but am afraid to lose tq. Right now I'm making 409hp/476tq w/ my current mods, I will be switching to a 6lb lower because I don't think I'm taking full advantage of the ported blower and will most likely get a BA2400 for x-mas. Do you guys think I could benefit from high flow mids?
Originally Posted by BigBobsL
Stock exhaust and cats: 10 psi back pressure at full throttle!
Full Bassani set-up w/Bassani: 5 psi
Full Kooks set-up with Manaflow cats: 3 psi
I have not measured my catless Bassani mid pipe on my otherwise bone stock set-up, but sure it will be 3 - 1 psi.
All the backpressure is in the cats, that's why catbacks do not add any power, more than 1 psi back pressure is considered restrictive, particularly with a N/A motor. The performance disadvantage is less dramatic with SC motors, but still there.
Full Bassani set-up w/Bassani: 5 psi
Full Kooks set-up with Manaflow cats: 3 psi
I have not measured my catless Bassani mid pipe on my otherwise bone stock set-up, but sure it will be 3 - 1 psi.
All the backpressure is in the cats, that's why catbacks do not add any power, more than 1 psi back pressure is considered restrictive, particularly with a N/A motor. The performance disadvantage is less dramatic with SC motors, but still there.
Now keep in mind that I have my pipes out the back, one on each side. With CA legal Cats and a pair of Bassani's I was able to get it down to that number but at the expense of it being way too loud for my taste.
I reinstalled a pair of 3" bore, 54" long All Stainless Steel packs and now at 15 psi boost it is below 10 psi at 6250 rpm (my shift point). I now have the best of both worlds in that I have reasonable back pressure and a noise level that is less than that of a stock Lightning.
Last edited by madferraristi; Dec 21, 2006 at 11:28 PM.
Originally Posted by madferraristi
When Sal was last out in Norcal, he told me that at 15 psi boost and cats in place, the best I could hope for would be 10 psi.
Now keep in mind that I have my pipes out the back, one on each side. With CA legal Cats and a pair of Bassani's I was able to get it down to that number but at the expense of it being way too loud for my taste.
I reinstalled a pair of 3" bore, 54" long All Stainless Steel packs and now at 15 psi boost it is below 10 psi at 6250 rpm (my shift point). I now have the best of both worlds in that I have reasonable back pressure and a noise level that is less than that of a stock Lightning.
Now keep in mind that I have my pipes out the back, one on each side. With CA legal Cats and a pair of Bassani's I was able to get it down to that number but at the expense of it being way too loud for my taste.
I reinstalled a pair of 3" bore, 54" long All Stainless Steel packs and now at 15 psi boost it is below 10 psi at 6250 rpm (my shift point). I now have the best of both worlds in that I have reasonable back pressure and a noise level that is less than that of a stock Lightning.
If your a numbers guy a full exhaust on a bolt on modded L is worth 15-20 HP and around 30 FPT, don't expect to set the world on fire with this mod, Rob is 100% correct it's a piece in the performance puzzle or a step on your way to reaching a performance goal, with all the bolt ons a stock Eaton and a 4lb lower I made 444 HP on JDM's dyno. I would think the stock 4 cat setup is biggest bottle neck but theres a few HP to be had in swapping the cat back and I know long tubes will definatly increase torque, if you got 10HP and the same amount of torque increase I'd be happy.
Originally Posted by STRYKS2X
I always thought that replacing the mids wasn't necessary on lightly modded trucks and that you could lose some tq. I really really want to wake up the L sound wise w/ a set of highflow mids, but am afraid to lose tq. Right now I'm making 409hp/476tq w/ my current mods, I will be switching to a 6lb lower because I don't think I'm taking full advantage of the ported blower and will most likely get a BA2400 for x-mas. Do you guys think I could benefit from high flow mids?
I think its a "needed" addition if your going with the 6lb lower.
I think Im going to do the same thing, - replace the 4 stockers with 2 hi-flow cats along with a MAF upgrade and a 6lb lower.


