I have a 2000 L with a superchip r7-8 program
an airaid and dual 40 series flowmaster with high flow cats. My problem is if I hammer it the truck shuts down as soon as it shifts to 2nd. Boost drops off and no power. Anyone have any suggestions?

 

Gee join the supercrap club. This is a problem that is very common with superchips.I had MANY superchips and have had this problem MANY times along with others.your program sounds like one of the latest ones.Its funny that they still cant perfect it like PSP ,Swanons,and a few others.this is because your truck goes into failsafe mode because of a **BAD CHIP PROGRAMMER** Dont let ANYBODY tell you its cause of a transmission fluid or any other reason! It is a chip problem and thats it!!!!
I have run in the hottest weather round after round after round without any problems on WOT with my chip or stock.It IS ACHIP PROBLEM PERIOD!!!! If your within your 30 day money back,GET A REFUND!! I have been through MANY SUPERCHIPS with my lightning only to have the same and a few more problems EVERY time it comes back!!!!!!!!!

 

Hi Droid,

First, there is no such thing as a CUX2R7-8 program. It is the CUX2R7 program.

Every chipmaker has run into protection modes, that is a fact of life in the Lightnings, but they have all been gotten around. There isn't a chipmaker on the planet that has not had to deal with this, and find ways around them, nobody is excepted from this. Every Lightning "tuner" knows this.

So far, yours is the only complaint we've had of this to date here at Performance in the CUX2R7 program, with hundreds of 2000 Lightnings using it. Lightnings can be very inconsistent in this area, as evidenced by virtue of the fact that to date, nobody else has said anything about this in the CUX2R7 program. In fact, in the previous program, there were only 6-8 of the 2000 Lightnings out of hundreds that exhibited this characteristic.

There are in fact a number of different protection modes, as we refer to them, that can do anything from reduce power for tranny fluid being overheated, to shutting down 4 cylinders in an engine coolant overheat or in the case of a no-load rev limiter being engaged, gross timing retards, etc. They tend to crop up when the vehicle is being run hard for extended periods in most cases. It's next to impossible to re-creat this on the dyno, it has to be re-created on the road, and a real-time data capture done to see what's going on, and then it's very easy to find the problem.

I just spoke with the engineer on this, and we have something we'd like you to try, so when you get a chance, please contact us privately.

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Mine cuts off between 1st.+2nd. also, no chip, stock 2000 black 2100 miles.BTW some people were asking about the price,dealers in philly were i live want full price i went to balt. md., 130 miles,paid $28950.saw 3 on the lot in philly last night,red, blk.,&wht.

 

hey droid just have em turn your shift point down to 5,500 you won.t have it no more....JL

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I hate to tell you people but the PSP Chip DOES the same thing.In the 1-2 shift the motor shuts down.I'm switching to the Superchip because I CAN get ahold of a person AND they ANSWER my emails where as PSP won't.

 

Not to get in a pissing contest but The only probable way this happens on a stock lightning should be when you manually shift right? Just curious?

 

I figured out the problem with the help of johnny lightning and babolt. I was run at wot with the overdrive off and it dumps the boost everytime on shifting into 2nd. If I run with the od on it won't dump the boost.
If I run with the od off and unplug the the valve that shuts off the boost, man it really runs and doesn't quit. Do you guys think unplugging the valve is good practice or should I have the chip reflashed to not shift at such a high point so I can run with the od off and not unplug that valve?

 

Yes,manually shifting,am I doing somthing wrong.

 

Hi Droid,

As we spoke about last evening over the phone, there are several possible protection modes that can cause a loss of power like that in that exact situation, and had we known you were losing boost, we could have told you immediately what's happening, as that's the key.

If the upshift point is too high, the computer will engage a protection mode that opens the boost popoff valve, and dumps boost to protect the motor, Neat protection!

I did have one other 2000 Lightning owner using the CUX2R7 program call me last night to let me know he had the same thing, so it's very rare, but it can and will happen if the transmission doesn't make it's shift on time. Doesn't hurt anything, just spoils the performance, of course.

This can happen to 1999 as well as 2000 Lightnings, by the way.

You can either disconnect the boost pop off valve (quick "fix"), or, we can adjust your upshift point in the program, it's a very easy fix, and that is what should be done to permanently eliminate this in that particular vehicle.

This is another excellent example of the small inconsistencies in the 4R100's orifice size in the PCS, as if it's tad too small, it will not allow enough fluid *volume* to flow at higher line pressures, and hence takes longer to complete the upshift. This is why the vast majority of the 2000 Lightnings are not having any problem like this, but a couple are.

And of course this is true regardless of what chip you run, if it hits that protection mode from too high rpm during an upshift, it will dump boost every time. If you have a shift kit, this doesn't happen due to opening up the PCS orifice.

At any rate, this is very simple, and easy to take care of.

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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
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No , you are not doing anything (wrong) Its just your rev limiter is set at 5400 and your factory shift point is set at 5250.There is NO room to play.When you manually shift and bump the rev limiter it will go into fail safe mode and you will lose boost for about 10 seconds until the computer catches up which will make you abort the WOT run you just started.Dont bother trying to manually shift you cannot.

AS far as the pop off valve,Ford would not have put it there if it didnt need it.I would not do it.Maybe if you do,You will have a POP OFF BLOWER TOO!! I cant understand why anybody would tell you to disconnect it because of a problem with a chip! FIX THE CHIP not the pop off valve!I have had this same problem over and over with Superchips.I have been lied too many times and so on by SUPERCHIPS.(**NOT MIKE TROYER** but superchips themselves.It has been over a year and two model years.Superchips should know what would make a failsafe mode come about and should work around it.Not sell chips that are on the verge waiting for something to happen and then promise to fix it.
One more thing. The BULL***** about just a few owners have experienced problems with this paticular problem and a few more is exactly that ,BULL*****.If you look back,The are MANY with this same problem with 99s.
Mike troyer is a decent buisnessman.He does try and fix problems when you call and is always available for your questions and is always willing to help.The problem is with superchips them self.The throw the ol lightning on the dyno and call it a day.I would think they would be smart enough to street test every new chip program to see about the se problems.They dont WE DO and then its shipping charges up the butt!!! There are going to be slight problems with any new chip,I understand that.The poblem I have is every time I sent my chip back,It came back with the same problem and sometimes a couple more!