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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim Skelton
HREs are 3-piece wheels. Those "faux beadlocks" AKA "gaudy worthless allen wrench sockets" hold the wheel halves together.
Hehe, for someone who's making such a big deal about being able to polish his rims you would figure he actually knew what a three piece wheel was, eh Tim? rofl.

Sorry my man, but Lumadar, you really, really need go to Google and learn what a three-piece rim is before you continue to make yourself look rather ignorant.



The three piece design allows a broder range of customization, not only from offsets and width, but to the alloys that make up the wheel. This allows for a lighter, high performance wheel that still maintains great strength. Centers can be cast in various methods or forged. The rim sections for 3-piece wheels are normally spun from disks of aluminum. Generally, spun rim sections offer the ability to custom-tailor wheels for special applications that would not be available otherwise. The rim sections are bolted to the center and normally a sealant is applied in or on the assembly area to seal the wheel. This type of 3-piece construction was originally developed for racing in the early 1970s and has been used on cars ever since.

Over time, I can't just use "three shots of window cleaner" and a single terry cloth to clean the wheels. Two reasons -- 1. I have real brakes, for racing, they make dust, always. 2 -- my wheels are polished, not chrome. They oxidize slowly over time, and need to be re-polished. Chrome doesn't stand up to the conditions of racing, I know, I ate a set of chrome rims using them racing. Anyone who has polished wheels will tell you the "make your life easier" secret to cleaning: wax the wheels...it keeps the cycle between polishings a bit longer.



Odin -- We need to get you some bigger rotors. Hehe, come, join the dark side, you know you want some nice Brembo's under there.
 

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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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Odin -- We need to get you some bigger rotors.

I'm up for that. Need my mailing address?



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Hehe, come, join the dark side, you know you want some nice Brembo's under there.


I had them in my sights, then my tranny "left the building." Now I have to wait a little longer. There may be a built motor squeezed in there before the brakes make an appearance, too. They are on the list.


I wish I had a money tree in the backyard like Vinnie.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Lumadar
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Why are you even posting in the lightning section anyway?
 
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Lumadar
If it wasn't all "busied up" by those faux beadlock things it would be nice. But not only does it look cheesey IMO, I can tell you that FOR SURE the wheels will be so much work to clean you will give up trying within a year's time, and the wheels will go to hell.

those little sockets retain brake dust, dirt, grime, and the liking and bleed out onto the wheels...making them virtually impossible to clean.

I will never in my life own a set of wheels with beadlock patterns, ever.

I worked at a dealer and saw trade-ins a year old time after time with otherwise fine wheels- ruined due to the beadlock.
Alright there 'beadlock' King...just so you know the difference here's a picture of an actual beadlock. Notice that it's actually on the bead and not in the center of the wheel as in the case of a two or three-piece wheel?



And if you can't detail those wheels in less than 30 minutes with a few Q-tips you've got issues, but then that's already been confirmed by some of your posts...
 
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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Thanks to everyone for not clearing anything up I did not already know. Whatever would I do without your cunning use of google?

I know damn well what beadlock is, as I do multi-piece wheels. My point is when you have multi-piece wheels like that (when you don't truly plan on using them to be changed to various sizes, which, let's be honest, you won't be) than it just ends up being a WORTHLESS addition to the wheel that makes them very busy. From more than 15 feet away you cannot distinguish exactly what you are looking at aside from a LOT of different angles...aka BUSY.

And FYI Skeleton, I never said anything about polishing any wheels, did I? I said CLEAN, learn to distinguish between different words and stop making crap up.

I'm perfectly aware of the differences between chrome and polished, but thanks for the quick lesson there I guarantee I have more detailing knowledge and experience than the whole sum of the morons attempting to show me how great their cheesey, cheap, discount-tire special-looking would-be wheels are.

Oh, and I have as close to racing street pads as you can get, so I'm fully aware of brake dust. and BTW, because you apparently can't read sig's or look at pictures and tell what size wheels people have- I don't have "dubs" they are 22s. But thanks for playing
 
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 05:02 PM
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Well, well, well..."Mr. Chip on my Shoulder" is back again. Perhaps you should have taken some of your own advice and 'Googled' the correct term for what an HRE wheel is as opposed to incorrectly referring to it as a "beadlock look." Anybody with your obvious vast wealth of all things wheels and detailing should have easily been able to identify a multi-piece wheel vs. a beadlock. And unless I'm mistaken, a set of HRE's is probably going to be a bit more expensive than your sweet set of double-dubs, duece-duece, pimp rollers or ghetto hoops - whatever they call them in your 'hood.

You amuse me...and I mean that in the most 'magnifying glass on an anthill' kind of way.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Lumadar
Thanks to everyone for not clearing anything up I did not already know. Whatever would I do without your cunning use of google?

I know damn well what beadlock is, as I do multi-piece wheels. My point is when you have multi-piece wheels like that (when you don't truly plan on using them to be changed to various sizes, which, let's be honest, you won't be) than it just ends up being a WORTHLESS addition to the wheel that makes them very busy. From more than 15 feet away you cannot distinguish exactly what you are looking at aside from a LOT of different angles...aka BUSY.

And FYI Skeleton, I never said anything about polishing any wheels, did I? I said CLEAN, learn to distinguish between different words and stop making crap up.

I'm perfectly aware of the differences between chrome and polished, but thanks for the quick lesson there I guarantee I have more detailing knowledge and experience than the whole sum of the morons attempting to show me how great their cheesey, cheap, discount-tire special-looking would-be wheels are.

Oh, and I have as close to racing street pads as you can get, so I'm fully aware of brake dust. and BTW, because you apparently can't read sig's or look at pictures and tell what size wheels people have- I don't have "dubs" they are 22s. But thanks for playing
I wish I could remember what it was like to be a teenager again. You must be the most skilled detail person on the planet. Funny how the net and a keyboard makes someone the best ever in any field. Best get back to polishing I mean cleaning or buffing them bad azz double douche bags.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Lumadar
Thanks to everyone for not clearing anything up I did not already know. Whatever would I do without your cunning use of google?

I know damn well what beadlock is, as I do multi-piece wheels. My point is when you have multi-piece wheels like that (when you don't truly plan on using them to be changed to various sizes, which, let's be honest, you won't be) than it just ends up being a WORTHLESS addition to the wheel that makes them very busy. From more than 15 feet away you cannot distinguish exactly what you are looking at aside from a LOT of different angles...aka BUSY.

And FYI Skeleton, I never said anything about polishing any wheels, did I? I said CLEAN, learn to distinguish between different words and stop making crap up.

I'm perfectly aware of the differences between chrome and polished, but thanks for the quick lesson there I guarantee I have more detailing knowledge and experience than the whole sum of the morons attempting to show me how great their cheesey, cheap, discount-tire special-looking would-be wheels are.

Oh, and I have as close to racing street pads as you can get, so I'm fully aware of brake dust. and BTW, because you apparently can't read sig's or look at pictures and tell what size wheels people have- I don't have "dubs" they are 22s. But thanks for playing

What an a-hole
 
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 05:33 PM
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Laugh. I wouldn't have expected anything MORE from either of you two dolts. Both retorts entirely lacking substance, go figure?

and as for telling me I should have googled the HRe before falsely labeling it as a "beadlock look" you basically just answered why exactly I was not wrong in saying what I did, pal I didn't say it had beadlock, I said it had a similar look. Considering beadlock style wheels have the SAME allen wrench sockets all around the wheel, I guess I was right on, now wasn't I? Go figure.

And you may want to work on your math too, because last I checked "teens" stopped at 19.

As for the HREs costing more than my wheels, lmao, why the hell do I care? those wheels look like ****, and will only further look like **** as time goes on- especially since you have "racing brakes with brake dust" haha.

Man, you're so cool, you have brake dust! Hardcore
 
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Lumadar
Thanks to everyone for not clearing anything up I did not already know. Whatever would I do without your cunning use of google?

I know damn well what beadlock is, as I do multi-piece wheels. My point is when you have multi-piece wheels like that (when you don't truly plan on using them to be changed to various sizes, which, let's be honest, you won't be) than it just ends up being a WORTHLESS addition to the wheel that makes them very busy.
Multi piece wheels add for flexibility from a MANUFACTURING standpoint. Not for the end consumer. you can use a forged center with spun hoops, making it not only strong, but light weight, and you can then offer it in basically infinite fitments.

Your wheels are ghetto fabulous and you're about as smart as a box of hair.

your sig lets us know everything. all your mods are appearance and stereo, plus some ROUSH Badges! OMG what a badazz streetracering dawg you are!

 
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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Multi piece wheels add for flexibility from a MANUFACTURING standpoint. Not for the end consumer. you can use a forged center with spun hoops, making it not only strong, but light weight, and you can then offer it in basically infinite fitments.

Your wheels are ghetto fabulous and you're about as smart as a box of hair.

your sig lets us know everything. all your mods are appearance and stereo, plus some ROUSH Badges! OMG what a badazz streetracering dawg you are!

You apparently can't read either? I have high performance street tires, a performance suspension system, intake, exhaust, custom tuning, and Ford Racing/Richmond gears.

It is NOT all show and no go. However, I am also aware that I am driving a 6,000 pound supercrew and not going to be setting any land speed records. Not everyone buys a truck to race...I happen to think my truck is extremely well rounded with a very clean and complete exterior, interior, stereo, and a good blend of performance mods. Never did I claim to be a street racer either, good assumption there pro.

Of course, for arguments sake, you will never agree, but that doesn't change the fact that my truck is a proven well-rounded show favorite trophy winner.

Oh, and thanks for explaining to me the intricate advantages of a 3-piece wheel....it's better for the manufacturer.... so wait, you get to have more ugly worthless (to the end user, as you so graciously explained) junk on the outside of the wheel and that's a good thing, why?

 
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Lumadar
You apparently can't read either? I have high performance street tires,
WOW REALLY? List those badass kumhos or hankooks for us PLEASE!

Originally Posted by Lumadar
a performance suspension system,
Belltech shackles/hangers and coil or spindles DO NOT count as performance suspension. In fact, any suspension parts that are advertised as keeping ride comfort shouldn't be considered performance.

Originally Posted by Lumadar
intake, exhaust, custom tuning, and Ford Racing/Richmond gears.
SO your truck sounds better, shifts nice with the tune, and has gears to make up for the oversize tires? Congrats. None of those even approaches radically changing the stock performance level.

Originally Posted by Lumadar
It is NOT all show and no go. However, I am also aware that I am driving a 6,000 pound supercrew and not going to be setting any land speed records. Not everyone buys a truck to race...I happen to think my truck is extremely well rounded with a very clean and complete exterior, interior, stereo, and a good blend of performance mods. Never did I claim to be a street racer either, good assumption there pro.
Apparently you can't detect sarcasm either.

Originally Posted by Lumadar
Of course, for arguments sake, you will never agree, but that doesn't change the fact that my truck is a proven well-rounded show favorite trophy winner.
Congratulations, some carshow judge thinks your ride looks good. They're pretty much worthless as any type of measure of class and good taste.

Originally Posted by Lumadar
Oh, and thanks for explaining to me the intricate advantages of a 3-piece wheel....it's better for the manufacturer.... so wait, you get to have more ugly worthless (to the end user, as you so graciously explained) junk on the outside of the wheel and that's a good thing, why?

Apparently you missed the fact that it lets the wheels be strong and light weight. So making strong and lightweight wheels for any racer who needs them no matter the size is a negative?

Please, do us all a favor and go post on cardomain, I'm sure you'll get lots of d1ck slobbering from them about your 22's and stereo system, and leave us alone.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Lumadar
allen wrench sockets all around the wheel, :
Thanks a lot guys! I really wanted to leave my two cents for this pole smokin' homey, but you guys said it so well! Double dueche bags? Hahahaa...thats f'king awesome! Beat me to calling him on his "performance" ride too! Damn...I guess the only thing I can call him out on....since he's being all technical with his wording.....its called an "allen head cap screw" dueche bag!

Dude....how come you don't have the "two BIG bottles of Nawwwz" in there too? Don't worry you don't have to use it...as soon as people know your packin' it, nobody will even try!
 
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Lumadar
and as for telling me I should have googled the HRe before falsely labeling it as a "beadlock look" you basically just answered why exactly I was not wrong in saying what I did, pal I didn't say it had beadlock, I said it had a similar look. Considering beadlock style wheels have the SAME allen wrench sockets all around the wheel, I guess I was right on, now wasn't I? Go figure.

And you may want to work on your math too, because last I checked "teens" stopped at 19.

As for the HREs costing more than my wheels, lmao, why the hell do I care? those wheels look like ****, and will only further look like **** as time goes on- especially since you have "racing brakes with brake dust" haha.

Man, you're so cool, you have brake dust! Hardcore
Yep...a beadlock and a three-piece look identical. You know a Ferrari and a Yugo look the same since they both have four round, black tires. And I believe it was you with the comment about the "discount-tire" wheels...nice try assclown but if you paid more than $150 a wheel for your sweet chrome bad-boys you got jobbed. Although some hydraulics and cool three-wheeling action would really set those wheels off! And wait, there's another one, "I have as close to racing street pads as you can get."

While I still find you amusing perhaps you should just shut your choad dumpster and crawl back under the rock from whence you came.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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Today's wheel styles leave me cold. It's even worse in the truck/SUV segment. I would like to have some Moda F5's, but they're more rare than a stock Lightning. Some 20" BBS LM's would do me as well.

Thank goodness the stock wheels are quite nice.
 
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