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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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L v CTS-V

I'm thinking of trading my 02 L in, up or down, whatever the case may be, on a 2006 Caddy CTS-V. Anyone know how the two match up stock for stock performance-wise? TIA.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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The V will kill a stock L. 400 HP LS7 motor in a car vs. 380 hp in a 4800 lb truck.

The V also costs 52K.


http://www.cadillac.com/cadillacjsp/...jsp?model=ctsv
 
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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You missed an opportunity to get one at 0% interest for up to 60 mos. over the July 4th weekend. I was on the fence whether or not to make that exact trade; but, I like having the big trunk, and have sunk way too much money into the L for it to be an easy decision to take. It's a good swap if you decide to do it.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Falcon11
The V will kill a stock L. 400 HP LS2 motor in a car vs. 380 hp in a 4800 lb truck.



http://www.cadillac.com/cadillacjsp/...jsp?model=ctsv
Fixed it for ya!
Stock they'll be in the low 13s trapping anywhere from 103-108 depending on driver/conditions..
 
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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You missed an opportunity to get one at 0% interest for up to 60 mos. over the July 4th weekend. I was on the fence whether or not to make that exact trade; but, I like having the big trunk, and have sunk way too much money into the L for it to be an easy decision to take. It's a good swap if you decide to do it.
0% is still an option. That's what got me looking. I just retired from the military and sold my Ducati 996 to get a Harley. Now, a Caddy?!? At 37, I feel like I'm turning into my father!
 

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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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0% is still an option. That's what got me looking. I just retired from the military and sold my Ducati 996 to get a Harley. Now, a Caddy?!? At 37, I feel like I'm turning into my father!

"It's not your father's Cadillac anymore."
 
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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0% is still an option. That's what got me looking. I just retired from the military and sold my Ducati 996 to get a Harley. Now, a Caddy?!? At 37, I feel like I'm turning into my father!
Gene, I've driven a CTS-V and I like it. Stock for stock, as has been posted, it will outrun an L. 0-60mph will depend on the driver to an extent, b/c the Caddy can be tricky to launch effectively from a standstill. But from a 20mph roll... a stock L has no chance.

I don't know if you like to mod your vehicles or not. The biggest issue with the CTS-V is it has a very weak rear diff/halfshaft setup. Add too much power and/or get too aggressive and it will break.

I've done a lot of research on it b/c I seriously considered the same trade with my L... not but 3-4 months ago. I decided against it. But I also have a very fast sports car in my garage, so it might not make as much sense for me as others. I also really, really enjoy my L. I've decided to keep it and mod it more.

If you need a hot-performing 4-seater, the CTS-V is a solid buy, IMHO.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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I also came close to the CTS-V and settled on a Lincoln LS. Not near as fast but still a quick and great handling car.

Other than cost difference, I was put off by all of the complaints about axle hop on launch that the CTS-Vs seem to have trouble with. Car mag drivers had a hard time getting off the line and had the exhaust pipes slapping against the rear bumper from the vibration. They could be had in the low $40k range but for that kind of paper, they should have the bugs worked out.

I think GM has a great idea but maybe the CTS was never designed to handle that kind of power and thus the problem. I heard of some aftermarket fixes but never investigated them.

Other than launch issues, the car appears to be all smiles in every other aspect. On the rare chance I want to engage in a stop light 1/8 mile with some punk, I want to be dang sure I can put all 400hp on the ground with out breaking something.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 01:23 PM
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Gene niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice choice

If getting ALL the power to the ground is what your after, consider looking at a Jeep SRT8 (especially if you dont want any launch problems), amof you CANT spin a tire WET OR DRY if you tried, (cant wait to get it in the snow) SOB is like launching on slicks in the sticky stuff 24/7 I tell ya AND it'll kick *** on almost anything off the showroom floor. And the interior options and handling cant be beat, it's pretty much all Mercedes now AND IT SHOWS AND GOES.

Check out the specs, the SOB has the full deal Built Motor in it, we're talking Block, Pistons, Rods, Headers, Heads, Cams, Trans, Rear, Exhaust, EVERYTHING . And I can tell you for a fact (from the Forums I'm hanging out at), NO ONE has broke one yet, AND EVERYONE is racing them. No burnout needed, no tire swaping needed, no NOTHING. Just mash the pedal to the floor and get pinned EVERYTIME


SRT took a Chrysler 5.7-liter V8 and bored it out, increased compression, and installed larger valves, intake and exhaust manifolds and lumpier cams. This engine makes 420 hp and 420 lb-ft of torque, enough to blow the doors off any far more sensible car on the planet. Even though the curb weight of this Grand Cherokee is a whopping 4819 pounds, it is still agile and powerful enough to get to 60 mph from a standstill in just 4.7 seconds.

“Well, it’s fast all right,” said the test pilot into his tape recorder after the very first run. “Just takes right off, slams you back into your seat without any tire squeal whatsoever; it just plain goes.”


The 60-mph time and the subsequent 13.36 seconds at 102.5 mph in the quarter-mile are better than everything else we have tested in the class by a significant margin. The closest is the Cayenne Turbo, at 5.16 seconds to 60 mph (Sept. 29, 2003). Everything else falls off precipitously from there. In fact, the SRT8 is quicker and faster than both the Pontiac GTO and Ford Mustang GT we tested (both on Jan. 10, 2005).


http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...6008/1012/FREE
 
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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Rob, im glad your happy.but its still a toaster on wheels like all suv's
 
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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Rob, im glad your happy.but its still a toaster on wheels like all suv's, thats what they look like to me anyway
 
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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Rob, im glad your happy.but its still a toaster on wheels like all suv's, thats what they look like to me anyway
Well, I bet it makes some badass toast!
 
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BMW 550. Speed, quality, incredible brakes and incredible interior.

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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob_02Lightning
Gene niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice choice

If getting ALL the power to the ground is what your after, consider looking at a Jeep SRT8 (especially if you dont want any launch problems), amof you CANT spin a tire WET OR DRY if you tried, (cant wait to get it in the snow) SOB is like launching on slicks in the sticky stuff 24/7 I tell ya AND it'll kick *** on almost anything off the showroom floor. And the interior options and handling cant be beat, it's pretty much all Mercedes now AND IT SHOWS AND GOES.

Check out the specs, the SOB has the full deal Built Motor in it, we're talking Block, Pistons, Rods, Headers, Heads, Cams, Trans, Rear, Exhaust, EVERYTHING . And I can tell you for a fact (from the Forums I'm hanging out at), NO ONE has broke one yet, AND EVERYONE is racing them. No burnout needed, no tire swaping needed, no NOTHING. Just mash the pedal to the floor and get pinned EVERYTIME


SRT took a Chrysler 5.7-liter V8 and bored it out, increased compression, and installed larger valves, intake and exhaust manifolds and lumpier cams. This engine makes 420 hp and 420 lb-ft of torque, enough to blow the doors off any far more sensible car on the planet. Even though the curb weight of this Grand Cherokee is a whopping 4819 pounds, it is still agile and powerful enough to get to 60 mph from a standstill in just 4.7 seconds.

“Well, it’s fast all right,” said the test pilot into his tape recorder after the very first run. “Just takes right off, slams you back into your seat without any tire squeal whatsoever; it just plain goes.”


The 60-mph time and the subsequent 13.36 seconds at 102.5 mph in the quarter-mile are better than everything else we have tested in the class by a significant margin. The closest is the Cayenne Turbo, at 5.16 seconds to 60 mph (Sept. 29, 2003). Everything else falls off precipitously from there. In fact, the SRT8 is quicker and faster than both the Pontiac GTO and Ford Mustang GT we tested (both on Jan. 10, 2005).


http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...6008/1012/FREE
And this has what to do with the original question, L vs CTS-V?
 
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 11:49 PM
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Thanks fellas, I appreciate all the constructive advice. I will go up and test one for myself this weekend, and go from there.
 
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