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Old Jun 12, 2000 | 10:31 PM
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I did a search on detonation and found a lot of entries however none describing what exactly the problem of detonation is. Can somebody answer me "what is detonation?" can I buy it at PEP boys or should I leave it alone. just kidding. I have no clear explanation and would just like to know what it is and how to prevent it. In laymans terms please.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2000 | 11:04 PM
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I believe it is when you have 2 or more flame fronts colliding in the combustion chamber that set off shock waves.

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Old Jun 12, 2000 | 11:06 PM
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Detonation (often call knock, ping{img}, Abnormal combustion, rumble, autoignition, predetonation) happens when a factor other then spark ignites the air/fuel ratio, in a spark ignition engine.
It also can occur if spark advance, low octane, lean condition,... , causes the cylinder pressure to rise too rapidly before TDC.

There are two major groups:
1) Spark Knock: -Controlable by the Spark Advance (Low octane, Lean,...)
2) Surface ignition:
i) Knocking Surface ignition -deposit or rough/hot spot (Too hot of spark plugs fall into this catagory)
ii) Wild ping -caused by material cracks in combustion chamber.




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Old Jun 12, 2000 | 11:18 PM
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Yeah, and that is not like the best thing that can happen or something. The same thing happens to me when I eat Mexican food.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2000 | 11:33 PM
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The easiest way to describe it is pre-ignition. The fuel charge is going off too soon, trying to send the piston back down while the crank is trying to send it up. Real hard on pistons and bearings.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2000 | 11:41 PM
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Yep! Exactly like mexican food. The ole motor doesn't fire at TDC so you lose power or something.

I also know that if there is predetination, that means it was supposed to happen and there's nothing you can do about it. Isn't that right REVBBQ.

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Old Jun 13, 2000 | 12:12 AM
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Damn,I hate when it happens before top dead center.Once it starts its usually too late.Your timing needs to be perfect! Is really hard on your shaft and ballbearings.
 
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