Sixpipes and Moonshine
I was looking at the Dyno Numbers from a few weeks ago again and noticed a column I ignored before. Not sure but it looks like torque, but the numbers arent high enough to be right. And to really confuse the issue if Power (hp) = Torque (ft-lb) * RPM / 5252 then how would the dyno guy know torque if he didnt have a RPM sensor on the truck ??
Unless you use Power (hp) = Force (lb) * Velocity (MPH) / 374 - Where the Force is calculated from the dyno and he knows the wheel speed also from the dyno drum.... Hmm now I am confused.. I'll grab a beer and think it out some more.... Here is a chart including the mystery column Send Me an email and I will send a chart of your runs with the torque column
Doug
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Got Silver 2000 Lightning 2/28/00!!
1st run 13.9 sec 1/4 !!
Doug
Carrollton TX
drbdkb@hotmail.com
Had 87 Turbo Coupe traded for
92 F150 XLT 302, Put K&N Filter, cat back and Chip on 92 Still not enough.
Silver 2000 Lightning, Valentine 1, Snuglid, Bedrug and K&N Filter. Have Sals Chip and Filter on order, cant wait.
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Unless you use Power (hp) = Force (lb) * Velocity (MPH) / 374 - Where the Force is calculated from the dyno and he knows the wheel speed also from the dyno drum.... Hmm now I am confused.. I'll grab a beer and think it out some more.... Here is a chart including the mystery column Send Me an email and I will send a chart of your runs with the torque column
Doug
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Got Silver 2000 Lightning 2/28/00!!
1st run 13.9 sec 1/4 !!
Doug
Carrollton TX
drbdkb@hotmail.com
Had 87 Turbo Coupe traded for
92 F150 XLT 302, Put K&N Filter, cat back and Chip on 92 Still not enough.
Silver 2000 Lightning, Valentine 1, Snuglid, Bedrug and K&N Filter. Have Sals Chip and Filter on order, cant wait.
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Hi Silver,
Wow it's really hard to read this type of dyno run.
How can you be making 250 hp at 50 and 325 hp at 135 at the same rpm? I know not exact.
If you look at my dyno run it was made in 3rd gear between 80 something and 115 something. It’s much easier to diagnose a small section of a hard dyno run than to compare an entire 0-130 blast.
I have a feeling that you may not like Dallas mustang but at least give them one try.
If my memory serves me correctly it's $50 for 3 pulls, and you can compare your run to mind on their database.
Go get um!
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Wow it's really hard to read this type of dyno run.
How can you be making 250 hp at 50 and 325 hp at 135 at the same rpm? I know not exact.
If you look at my dyno run it was made in 3rd gear between 80 something and 115 something. It’s much easier to diagnose a small section of a hard dyno run than to compare an entire 0-130 blast.
I have a feeling that you may not like Dallas mustang but at least give them one try.
If my memory serves me correctly it's $50 for 3 pulls, and you can compare your run to mind on their database.
Go get um!
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It has nothing to do with like or dislike - I just don’t respect someone ( Dude from DM ) who makes wild claims that are not backed up by ET’s.... But leaving that behind us... I definitely plan on having another Dyno set done, This time after my truck cools a bit and hope fully when I have My chip and filter - Perhaps even a before and after... There are a bunch of good places to Dyno in town DM is one of them. NOw that I am more comfortable with how to do it, I hope there wont be the big dip at the beginning of the run. Duh!
Doug
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Doug
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Doug,
I'm surprised by your response; I have total respect for you. You where nice enough to meet me at Hooters that afternoon.
As a friend I only thought you would be interested in comparing dynos to see where we stood.
I can see in my past posts where I could be promoting DM, I'm not. I feel that we can use them to our advantage, that is WE.
If you are totally set against it, cool, but between you and me, I don't want any hard words sir, I would like us DFW L guys to get along, even if I pissed you off in some matter!
Best regards.
Paul
I'm surprised by your response; I have total respect for you. You where nice enough to meet me at Hooters that afternoon.
As a friend I only thought you would be interested in comparing dynos to see where we stood.
I can see in my past posts where I could be promoting DM, I'm not. I feel that we can use them to our advantage, that is WE.
If you are totally set against it, cool, but between you and me, I don't want any hard words sir, I would like us DFW L guys to get along, even if I pissed you off in some matter!
Best regards.
Paul
Whoa ..... I meant the Dude from DM not you.... See clarification above... No worries, I just think it is foolish as a businessman to make those statements. If he were here on the board making claims we would just think he was Mad's brother...
And ignor him...
I have been there twice, didnt see anything associated with L's in showroom and when I asked a couple questions about L parts they didnt seem interested in helping...Maybe i was there on wrong day or talked to wrong guy...
I would be quicker to compare Dynos if i hadnt already been trounced by Sixpipes and Moonshine... Of course i blame it all on the guy behind the wheel, I know my L has more HP in it....
Doug
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And ignor him...I have been there twice, didnt see anything associated with L's in showroom and when I asked a couple questions about L parts they didnt seem interested in helping...Maybe i was there on wrong day or talked to wrong guy...
I would be quicker to compare Dynos if i hadnt already been trounced by Sixpipes and Moonshine... Of course i blame it all on the guy behind the wheel, I know my L has more HP in it....

Doug
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Well Doug,
That was my original point, with the type of dyno run you took. I doubt that you where really out done with 6 pipes and friends! I just think that’s a pretty poor example of a technical dyno run to examine.
Lets look at this place in Addison that runs the same type of dyno as DM.
Now I guess I'm just looking for happy middle ground, so to say. BTW I'm not looking to out do you; in fact you can have my chip when I get Sal's if you want it.
I guess that I'm the experimental type.
That was my original point, with the type of dyno run you took. I doubt that you where really out done with 6 pipes and friends! I just think that’s a pretty poor example of a technical dyno run to examine.
Lets look at this place in Addison that runs the same type of dyno as DM.
Now I guess I'm just looking for happy middle ground, so to say. BTW I'm not looking to out do you; in fact you can have my chip when I get Sal's if you want it.
I guess that I'm the experimental type.
Doug -
I'm ready to make another Dyno run when you are. I think our little experiment was pretty interesting even if other folks thought it a bit odd. Horsepower vs. Speed makes a pretty neat comparison. The effects of gears and chip/filter mods was easier to see when charted using mph. I think the more Lightnings we can get at a session the better.
I'm ready to make another Dyno run when you are. I think our little experiment was pretty interesting even if other folks thought it a bit odd. Horsepower vs. Speed makes a pretty neat comparison. The effects of gears and chip/filter mods was easier to see when charted using mph. I think the more Lightnings we can get at a session the better.
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OOPS! The above post was really by me. I forgot I was on my son's computer.
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1999 Black Roush-Lowered Lightning - w/Super Chip (YEEEOW!), 3.73 gears, JBA Headers, Power Surge air kit
13.302@103.28mph
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1999 Black Roush-Lowered Lightning - w/Super Chip (YEEEOW!), 3.73 gears, JBA Headers, Power Surge air kit
13.302@103.28mph
http://www.zing.com/picture/ff/da/3c/4/ffda3c44.jpg.orig.jpg
I agree - relating to speed is good for me since I can understand that as it applies to running down the track or the street.
I would have liked to see him take the time to add the Tach sensors so that we could get some more data but - That is what next time is for. I charted the Torque? numbers off the data he gave me and it is all over the place one of the runs it was over 500
Doug
I would have liked to see him take the time to add the Tach sensors so that we could get some more data but - That is what next time is for. I charted the Torque? numbers off the data he gave me and it is all over the place one of the runs it was over 500
Doug
Lets make a list of the shops in town (DFW) that have decent Dynos and Plan a trip either this week or next... Anyone going to the track Friday ?? Sixpipes and Moonshine - Check your email.. I sent the dyno runs in excel, should have zipped them sorry....(Only about 400k total)
Man I wish I could bottle the power this thing makes when it is cold soaked....
Doug
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Got Silver 2000 Lightning 2/28/00!!
1st run 13.9 sec 1/4 !!
Doug
Carrollton TX
drbdkb@hotmail.com
Had 87 Turbo Coupe traded for
92 F150 XLT 302, Put K&N Filter, cat back and Chip on 92 Still not enough.
Silver 2000 Lightning, Valentine 1, Snuglid, Bedrug and K&N Filter. Have Sals Chip and Filter on order, cant wait.
Man I wish I could bottle the power this thing makes when it is cold soaked....
Doug
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Got Silver 2000 Lightning 2/28/00!!
1st run 13.9 sec 1/4 !!
Doug
Carrollton TX
drbdkb@hotmail.com
Had 87 Turbo Coupe traded for
92 F150 XLT 302, Put K&N Filter, cat back and Chip on 92 Still not enough.
Silver 2000 Lightning, Valentine 1, Snuglid, Bedrug and K&N Filter. Have Sals Chip and Filter on order, cant wait.
Lets make a list of the shops in town (DFW) that have decent Dynos and Plan a trip either this week or next... Anyone going to the track Friday ?? Sixpipes and Moonshine - Check your email.. I sent the dyno runs in excel, should have zipped them sorry....(Only about 400k total)
Man I wish I could bottle the power this thing makes when it is cold soaked....
Doug
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Got Silver 2000 Lightning 2/28/00!!
1st run 13.9 sec 1/4 !!
Doug
Carrollton TX
drbdkb@hotmail.com
Had 87 Turbo Coupe traded for
92 F150 XLT 302, Put K&N Filter, cat back and Chip on 92 Still not enough.
Silver 2000 Lightning, Valentine 1, Snuglid, Bedrug and K&N Filter. Have Sals Chip and Filter on order, cant wait.
Man I wish I could bottle the power this thing makes when it is cold soaked....
Doug
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Got Silver 2000 Lightning 2/28/00!!
1st run 13.9 sec 1/4 !!
Doug
Carrollton TX
drbdkb@hotmail.com
Had 87 Turbo Coupe traded for
92 F150 XLT 302, Put K&N Filter, cat back and Chip on 92 Still not enough.
Silver 2000 Lightning, Valentine 1, Snuglid, Bedrug and K&N Filter. Have Sals Chip and Filter on order, cant wait.
Flats Man -
If that ever happens, you have my permission to take me out in the woods and shoot me. Don't you think an SVT Contour is enough?
Doug -
Lets try to put something together (Dyno) in the next month or so. You do realize you probably won't have your PSP stuff by then?
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If that ever happens, you have my permission to take me out in the woods and shoot me. Don't you think an SVT Contour is enough?
Doug -
Lets try to put something together (Dyno) in the next month or so. You do realize you probably won't have your PSP stuff by then?
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