2000Silver-
You now need to buy me a new keyboard( damn droll), I think mike should chip in because that truck is just sweet!

 

As I stated in another post, Superchips knows about the other limiter in the program, but whether or not they have found it I don't know. The tranny has to reach 350*F before the computer tells the bypass to open. Anybody seen 350* at the tranny??? If I remember right someone had a temp gauge on their trans. If a Dyno run can take you past 6000 RPM but your losing boost at the 5800 shift point, I would think that the redline limiter has been raised.

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Thats kinda what we thought a year ago in these posts: https://www.f150online.com/f150board...ML/000058.html

 

All-

I am a little confused (no jokes please). I have ran with this chip for the last month and never experienced a "bogging" down. This problem started Sunday. Only upgrade I have had since previous runs is a dynomax muffler. I tend to agree that it is not the transmission. I can hardly believe it would heat up that much just idling in park. Anyhow, my question is how does the limiter discussion tie into the bogging I am experiencing.

If it is the chip, does anyone have reasoning as to why this problem started out of the blue and never occured at my last two visits to the track?

Thanks in advance....Alex

 

Maybe I can help,
Mine only did it once in a while at first so I lived with it.When I went to the track it happened almost every run.Here i am wearing a helmet running 18s.I was embarassed.When it worked correctly it ran a 13.20@104.I was happy but once I got it back from the track,It did it almost all times on the street!I sent it back and told superchips.They did not know how to fix it.I told them to just raise the rev limiter to 6500 to completly factor that out as a problem.They said they would.I never tested the rev limiter and I sold the chip.Now my customer has the same problem I did.They lied again! When lightnings rev so fast,sometimes the computer doesnt shift in time.When the rev limiter is ever hit,It puts the truck into a fail-safe mode running at a low power.It is like the when you take a normal f150 and put a hole in the radiator.The truck senses this and makes the truck run on 50% power to make sure you dont overheat and you can drive it home.This is a quality built in all 97 new f150s.Its called fail-safe cooling feature in brochures.It just so happens on lightnings a rev limiter puts it into the same mode.On all f150s you can run into the rev limiter all day long and it wont effect anything like this.it is a Lightning specific problem

 

I know for sure that when I bog or loose boost it is not from the tranny overheating. I am not doubting it has happend to others though. Today going home from work right outside the parking lot I floored it(in drive) and it broke loose and spun from 1st to 2nd so I let off and then got back in to it and guess what? no boost. No time to get hot! It has only happend three times with the psp chip, every other time I held it manually in first and over reved it to about 6000 rpms. Its not hitting the rev limiter though, because when the rev limiter is hit it is a total differnt feel,the whole motor almost shuts down not just boost loose. It has to have some other fail safe thing that is only hit at higher rpms with the chips, and it is not the rev limiter. If I am not mistaken the rev limiter on the psp is set at 6500 specifically so the rev limiter wouldnt get in the way. I say just dont do a hard burn out at all, not even once, and see if it does it. I personally dont mind it loosing boost if I rev it to 6000, I shouldnt be doing that anyway, and so far the boost has come back after I let off and rev it up a couple of times.

 

Heating up the F-1 s doesn't seem to make any difference. Just spinem enough to get off the water and the caca.
(sorry, I couldn't resist it)

 

Have an update-

Evidently, Superchips has yet another new file for the L, this one is called the cux1BTBS. I will be getting it in a couple of days and will let ya'll know if there is any improvement and if the bog disappears.

Noel-

If the weather improves, do you want to go to the Sealy track Friday for more tests? I should have the new chip by then.

Alex

 

1BADFRD / Alex
Do you have a modem burner in your area or are you really in tight with Superchips. To turn the programing around in less then a week is a feat. You stated a new program ID called CUX1-BTBS. Is that correct? BTBS as in Big Time Bull Sh?t. There is a code CUX1-BTS1, could that be it? I would like to hear how / if you resolve the bog problem. When I posted above and in another entry I was hoping to generate a little intellectual curiosity. I had hoped that someone would have asked: How did someone / others resolve this issue?

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BABOLT-

I am not in tight with Superchips, I just know how to kiss ***, NOT! Truth is, I figured out how to have a fast turnaround. Like many others on the board, I honestly can not wait weeks for them to perform an update to my chip. I tell them to send me a new chip with the new program. (they charge my credit card). I send them my old chip back. (they credit my credit card). I do not have my chip "fixed", I just get a new chip. This will be my third Superchip.

As far as the program goes, I was told that it was completely new. The RPM file I had had only been out 1 month. Seems like they keep changing it because theve haven't got it exactly right yet. I will post results over the weekend.

 

Intercepturd??? Et Tu BA??

 

Another issue,
Notice how everytime they say it is fixed,They dont tell you how!! That pisses me off too.I would like to know for future reference.

 

Lightningquick do you know what you are talking about ?

You are saying that the superchip does not work correctly, have they fixed it based upon your experience or still selling the same chip?

What chip do you use now. If the problem has been addressed please include that info in your tirade. A lot of people are looking for good info and talking out your butt is not helpful.

 

MRBBQMAN & Ray
I am clueless. You state "you too BA" and have a photo of one of my mentors (two others are Popeye and Alfred E. Newman). I don't get it fill me in. Ray, where is your comment directed. All I know is that many of the people on this board (myself included) buy a lot of this add-on performance enhancing CRAP and it does not live up to the stated vendor claims. There are also people here who have solved some of the problems that still plague the rest of us. Be brave and ask them what did they do and see if they tell you. I have always posted my projects, not to brag but to entice others to do the same.

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OK I have ordered a SuperChip and now I'm really upset, Does anyone really know if it is the chip or another reason ? Driver error?

If you guys are correct, sorry but I hope I didn't waste my money on goofy acting chip.

I noted PSP chip did the same thing.
Are the chip people missing something on the L ?


Hi Don,

Sounds like somebody may not know quite exactly what they're talking about.
The Superchip cannot ever cause "the supercharger to shut off", that is
a physical impossibility. The Superchip does raise the upshift points, but
only because better performance can actually be had by doing so, and it
never exceeds the design limitations of the motor.

Now one thing that *can* happen, is anytime any of the powertrain
temperature exceed a certain temperature, whether it engine coolant or
automatic transmission fluid, it will engage a power-reducing strategy to
protect the motor. So if you're at the drag strip, making pass after pass,
the powertrain temps get very high, and power is reduced as a result, all
to protect the powertrain, so perhaps somebody is confusing that, possibly,
I don't know. It will cause 4 cylinders to cut out, or it can cause a spark
retard to engage all in an effort to reduce engine power until the tranny
fluid & other temps stabilize.

All the best,

Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515