GOD IS AN INDIAN GIVER?

God sent us his Son 2000 years ago. He was here on earth for about 33 years and then God allowed man to kill him. On the third day after his death he rose from the grave, appeared to Mary Madeline, went to Galilee, visited for 40 days and then ascended into Heaven.

God sent his son. God allowed his son to be killed. God raised his son from the dead and took him back home where He sits on the right hand of the Father.

Someone who gives you something and them takes it back is called an "Indian-giver"; therefore, God is an Indian giver.

When someone gives you something and then takes it back, you have the item's usage, you have memories, but you don't have the item any longer.

While Jesus was here he offered forgiveness and eternal life. If YOU except the free gift of salvation, YOU receive forgiveness for your sins and eternal life. In addition, you also receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit will help you, protect you, and guide you through the remaining days on this earth.

FORGIVENESS, ETERNAL LIFE, PERMANENT HELPER!!!! And who is this HELPER, the Holy Spirit? He's Jesus the Son of God in Spirit form. He never really left……….

Doesn't sound like an Indian giver to me, but does sound like the Greatest Gift of all times!

God Bless you all this Easter and may the Holy Spirit keep you and your family.

Noel

 

Nice one thanks.

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Amen, Noel.

Well said. May our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, guide and direct you and yours.

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No thanks.

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Right on noelvm!

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Every morning I wake up, look outside and give thanks and praises for all that I have. It's great to come to work, check out the Lightning forum and read such positive messages. Guidance and Protection to you all. I say this to everyone no matter what religion, I'm talking about life.

Sincerely,
Mike

 

Noel

That was beautiful. God bless you and your family and everyone here everyday. Happy Easter gang. Be safe.

CA

 

Thank you, Pastor Noelvm? You are showing more wisdom with each post.

The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen. REV. 22:21

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God did not "allow" Christ's death. Man has a free will that was given to him and it was man who killed Christ and cast Him aside.

After man's rejection, it was God who brought Him back home.

How can you say God was an "indian-giver" when he only took back that which was rejected. It sounds to me that God was more a loving father than an "indian-giver"!

Jim

[This message has been edited by FORDSALES (edited 04-22-2000).]

 

I've been talking a lot tonight with my "higher power" = God. It depends on how you view it. As everyone must know things are not going so well, and I'm surviving. I myself went to the ER tonight. I believed I was going into insulin shock. I waited 5 hours, and they took my money, and told me there was nothing they could do. *sigh*.

P.S. Sorry for whining. My mothers situation is unchanged. Thats the update.

P.S. II I hope you all are doing well, and have a great easter.

 

In a sense God did allow Christ's death. Yes, man does have free will, and did cast Christ aside and killed him. But Christ himself was not completely man. If God truly wanted to, he could have prevented his death. But his death was neccessary to fulfill all the prophecies about him.

Happy Easter to all,

LilBeam

 

Man's will only allows him to accomplish that which God has predestined.

 

Cant forget that God is SOVERIGN. Tha Gospels declare that Jesus gave his life voluntarily and freely. Jesus said, " I lay down my life only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again" (John 10:17-18) Often the soverignty of man is put before the soverignity of God, but that is a big mistake.God is omniscient, omnipotent,and omnipresent. Jasus fulfilled almost 100 Old Testament prophecies when he was put to death. You cant forget Jesus was 100% God and 100% man. It was not first mans idea to put Jesus to death but it was Gods. Our limited free will never over powers Gods soverignty, He is in control, and I thank GOD for that.

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Wow,

We should start a RFC (Racers For Christ) forum. I agree with Caka and sixpipes.

While this thread has gone slightly off of what Noelvm started, here's my ? for thought (of which I am confident in my own answer to, but it would take WA 2 much space here):

If you believe that we all are sinners (Rom 3:23) and are in a depraved state and thus in bondage to that sin, is the will truly free?

No need to reply to this on this board.

Is there anyway that we could have e-mail addresses on this board, though? It sure would be helpful to e-mail individuals privately sometimes.

Have a great weekend guys/gals!

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Hi Fordsales,
I think you missed my point. Both statements "God is an indian-giver" end with a question mark. This is a question not a statement. Hopefully what followed was proof that God is not an indian-giver.

This type of deposition is called a "straw dog" arguement, where a statement is put forward as true and then refudiated by additional facts.

It was quite common in the Bible.Paul used in 1 Corinthians 6:12 where Paul says "Everything is permissible for me". He then proceeds to explain that while all sins are forgiven in Jesus it is not right to sin especially if it causes others to become confused or sin also. He ends this arguement in Ch 8:13 when talking about eating meat that has been sacrificed to pagan idols he says" Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother to fall into sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause him to fall.

I'm sorry if my attempt to emulate Paul failed.
Happy Easter
Noel
My email address is noelvm@pdq.net if metallic Blur or anyone else would like to email me direct.