If I said 425whp / 500wtq whould that sound about right?

Just trying to get a guestamant. I get the question all the time, and I am really getting tired of saying "I don't know, I have not bean to the dyno yet" And YES! I did the search, and after about an hour of reading posts telling people to do a search, I said screw it, I'm starting a new thread!!!

I am not trying to claim false numbers or any thing crazy like that, but next time, I want to be able to reply... "Well, I have not bean on the dyno yet, but some where around xxxwhp and xxxwtq is what I'll be putting down." With out sounding like the kid in the Honda who sais he has 400whp.

I feel the flames comeing on... flame away, just please give me your questamant while doing so.

Thanks Guys!

EDIT: Mods are in the sig, jfyi.

 

fyi I have more mods than you and have 374/445. So no, you are way off. Even being optimistic you would be hard pressed to get 400. I realize I am low for what I have, but still.

-Kimball

 

I think you need a new tunner then, most guys with just a 4lb lower, cai, and a tune are running close to 400whp. If you have only 374whp, and your boosting more than 13lbs, (you said you have more mods) you have some real tune problems. I'll post dyno sheet once I get thier. Thanks for the imput though. Just curious, what are you 1/4 times?

 

If you said about 380 H.P.and about 430 tq. you would be close. No way will those mods get you 425 H.P.

 

380/430, sounds better. Thanks. I am looking for real world quesses, not some inflamitory huge numbers, I just don't know. I can only go by what others have claimed in their sigs, with the smae or close to the same mods. But my buddy who goes to the same tunner, he has 412 with just a 4lb lower, cai, tune. So I don;t want to here that 400 is not a option. I'll check on his tourq, and repost...

EDIT: Here it is,
2001 RED LIGHTNING...JLP 4# lower, NGK TR6 Iridium plugs, K&N FIPK CAI, Diablosport Predator tuner, Goodyear Gatorback belt, Bassani SS Catback Exhaust......412 HP 501 trq

so please tell me again why 420-425/500 is not posible for me?

 

The only way to know for sure is to put it on the dyno. I can also tell you that the 2000 Lightning started off with less H.P. than the 2003, which is what I have.

Right after I took delivery of my truck, I took it to Orlando Florida and had Mike Troyer meet me there. He and Superchips...with help from Lamotta performance, put mods on my truck one at a time and tuned and retuned for each mod. They where doing some tuning research at the time. I can tell you that when they dyno tuned it with the same basic level of mods you have listed, it was hanging in the 380 area.

With a 6lb lower, 2lb upper ....and darned near every bolt on known at the time.....It would hit 425 around 535 torque.

I have several dynoes in my gallery here http://www.svtgalleries.net/gallery/...big&ppuser=226

My stock dyno started at 350 HP. A 2000 stock dynoed around 330HP

The only problem comparing to my dynoes is that after the stock dynoes where done...all the rest had every bolt on available...LOL.

 

One more issue you have to look out for. Several fellers around here post uncorrected dyno numbers..... Corrected numbers are more real world and always read lower. How much depends on the temps, humidity and density altitude at the time and local of the dyno.

Most guys like uncorrected numbers because it makes them feel like they have something extra...LOL.

 

Sound like uncorrected numbers to me.

 

Yea, I know what you mean. But when I can get it on the dyno... (my wife said I have to wait until after our taxes come back )... if I only see 380, I will be disapointed. oh and as far as I know, the 20hp diff from 00-01 was the MAF and slight tune veribles, so with the 90mm MAF I have now, and a tune, it doesn't matter what year it is. Wane (Wanes Dyno in Jacksonville, NC) he is the one who did my buddies that I posted earlyer, he said that we will have close to the same settup, the only differance (power wise) is that I have the 2.80 upper, and he is stock, 2.93. So if he is putting down 412, then at the very least, you take off the 20hp for a 2000, than add the 20hp for the extra boost of the 2.80 upper, then that still puts me at over 400. I know that thier may be other who post false numbers, but I was with him when he got it dyno'd. I don't know. I just wanted more imput I guess. What I was really questioning wsa the Tourq numbers saince they change so dramtically. I am varly confadent that I will see 400 or better on HP, but I have no idea about tq.

 

The only thing in your mod list that is significantly different then my mods is the upper, I still have the stock upper. I dynoed with last year and the first pull was 401 but running a little lean. On his recommendation we detuned it to 393.

 

398/476 Here SAE Corrected at 11.8 A/F across the board @93 degrees F (I have to say that because I KNOW I could have had over 400 if I would have just waited to do it in cooler weather )
4#, PSP Fast Air, and Tune.

 

when I had a 3# lower, 90mm MAF, and an Airraid intake, with a PHP dyno tune I was at 398/497...


There are a lot of factors to consider on the tune. some tuners lock the timing at a maximum degree, some let the computer control it.
My truck has a max of 16 dgrees timing, where as wydopnthrtl was in the 20's and fluctuated.

Temperature makes a huge difference. I'm sure I make at least 25 more hp in the cold temps here in michigan, than the hot humid summer months.



btw: most shops will give you 3 dyno pulls for $50. go spend the money.

 

Don't think so much into it.

Your set-up has about 400 RWHP and should run low 13s.

Even if your off a little its not like your exagerating its got 500 or something.

VINNIE

 

I have a 2003 with a 4lb, dyno-tuned chip, cai, and bassani exhaust and I dynoed at 400 hp and 502 lb/ft torque on the street tune.

I know it is a little higher then normal, but it is just to give you an idea.

Mike

 

i don't think you are far off at all. The whole dyno numbers thing gets so played out but it's amazing how some numbers vary.

with a tune, cai, throttle body, 4lb lower, efan, i put out 416 / 512 . Those numbers are STD corrected, so take it for what you want. This is on a 2000 truck.

i then added a ported blower and long tubes with high flows. Retuned on SCT software. Pulled 437 / 532 STD. Those numbers were done at JDM on their dyno. I think backed those numbers up with the same numbers at New England Dyno on another dyno jet.

It's not uncommon to see 400/500 with just a cai, tune and 4lb lower. I don't understand why the guys with trucks that put out lower numbers say no way.

Here's even a better twist. You know what's even more screwy?? When you take two truck with almost the same mods. Truck one has better dyno numbers then truck 2. Put them side by side at the track and with similar 60ft times..........truck 2 consistantly pulls better et's?????

No 2 trucks are exactly the same. Just the way it is.

My dad's 03 ran a best of like 13.6 in stock trim. There was another kid at the track, 03 completely stock, running 13.2's and 13.3's and his 60's were actually a little slower.

Go figure?