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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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DJM control arms

does anyone out there have these ? and if so do you or did you have a problem that at full extension you could not turn the tire left or right?
and not by the stearing wheel i mean with out tie- rods hooked up and just turning the wheel itself
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by LightninMike
does anyone out there have these ?
Yes.

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. . . do you or did you have a problem that at full extension you could not turn the tire left or right?
and not by the stearing wheel i mean with out tie- rods hooked up and just turning the wheel itself
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What do you mean by "full extension?" Is that with the spindles bolted in top and bottom? With the shocks in place?

Why are the tie rods disconnected? Where are they disconnected?

Please take the time to respond with complete sentences. When we can't decipher what you mean, it's hard to give you the answers that you are looking for.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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Yes, I have the uppers ... No problems.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim Skelton
Yes.


What do you mean by "full extension?" Is that with the spindles bolted in top and bottom? With the shocks in place?

Why are the tie rods disconnected? Where are they disconnected?

Please take the time to respond with complete sentences. When we can't decipher what you mean, it's hard to give you the answers that you are looking for.
full extension- just what it means i guess, truck jacked up and on jack stands on the frame. control arms bolted to the mounting points on the frame and the spindles bolted to the arms. the springs are also inplace (stock springs) but no the shocks are not installed


tie-rods- they are disconnected because it is the only way to remove the the spindle from the truck and it just makes it easier to pull out the stock control arms. also i will be replacing them so i yanked them

really its just like if you were to change the tire, jack the truck up till the wheels are off the ground
i call that full extension of the suspension, maybe i am wrong with that term
 
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 12:41 AM
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"Full extension" is fine, I just needed it defined.

This is an unrealistic situation with QA1s, as the shocks will not let the suspension drop that far. I think that the Bilsteins also limit suspension downtravel.

What is making contact to prevent the wheel from turning? Are the spindles hitting something?



I'm pretty much at full extension in the above pic -- the shock is in place, but not bolted in.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 09:12 AM
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nothing it hitting that is why i was worried, my second after "is anything hitting" was the ball joint binding up
mine looks the same as in your pic but i dont have the sway bars, tierods and such on the truck yet. mine is just the 2 control arms, spring and the spindle.
i started thinking after you asked if the shocks were installed that they (the shocks) wouldnt let the suspension travel that far and that i would be just fine. i did put the jack under the lower arm and give it 1 pump after contact and got movement back and 2 pumps gives me all movement back.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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So if I am interpreting that mishmash of sentence structure
correctly, you cannot turn the spindle at all when the suspension
is jacked up? i.e. all the weight is off the wheel?
 
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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It appears that the problem exists only when the suspension is lowered beyond where it will be when the shocks are installed (the shocks limit the downward travel).

I think that the problem is solved.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim Skelton
It appears that the problem exists only when the suspension is lowered beyond where it will be when the shocks are installed (the shocks limit the downward travel).

I think that the problem is solved.
yes it seems to be, thanks for your help
 
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SVT_KY
So if I am interpreting that mishmash of sentence structure
correctly, you cannot turn the spindle at all when the suspension
is jacked up? i.e. all the weight is off the wheel?
didnt think this was an essay contest, sorry if i dont impress you. and yes with out the shocks installed and all the weight off the tires the spindle cannot be turned however after jack contact it only takes one pump of the handle (of the jack) to get movement back from the spindle

edit: ok now after going back and reading my post i see the the reason of the smartass remark........ god that looks awful. i would like to say i had a few but i cant, i think i was just tired
 

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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LightninMike
didn't think this was an essay contest, sorry if i don't impress you. and yes with out the shocks installed and all the weight off the tires the spindle cannot be turned however after jack contact it only takes one pump of the handle (of the jack) to get movement back from the spindle

edit: OK now after going back and reading my post i see the the reason of the smart-*** remark........ God that looks awful. i would like to say i had a few but i cant, i think i was just tired

No harm, no foul ... You are looking for help, and it just makes it
harder to understand if the problem is not described accurately. It's
not an essay contest, but we shouldn't have to be mind-readers either.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 09:34 AM
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