After re-thinking my situation I think it's best I find out what the problem is
BEFORE changing or upgrading anything, (boy did that bite me on the a$$ last time I tried that theory)

So I just ordered the Master Cylinder from my local Auto Zone, 49.99 + 27.00 core charge, I got to start somewhere. It'll be in Wed and I guess next weekends project (weather permitting). After I see what that does, I'll move on to the next move......

 

A brake kit for 15" wheels on the L would really sell....

 

$1600 is not as much when looking at StopTech & Brembo
I'm guessing 16" wheels will not clear, going from a stock 12" rotor to a 13" and the Wilwood calipers.

 

Better pads for your current setup might be something to consider. If you run open track events you will want a complete upgrade of everything. But for street use and slowing down at the end of the 1320, it may more cost effective to go with the pads only and you will get the desired results. Those big brake kits primarily offer more consistant performance for repeated stops. Rick, you remember my old convertible, it had a brembo kit on it and my stopping distances were actually slightly longer than my stock calipers and rotors with an aftermarket set of pads. But I could repeat that number all day long whereas my stock stuff would fade after a single stop and continue to become worse at slowing the car down.

 

I've got the 4-Piston TCE kit and run Hawk HPS pads on the front for street and the Polymatrix E Pads for the road course. I've also installed custom brake cooling ducts at the same time. In the rear I upgraded to Stan's slotted rotors and run Hawk HPS pads for track and street. The brakes are great and can beat on them all weekendand they still perform. At Gengerman the stock brake folks were getting black flagged for glowing rotors and went thru pads like no ones business. I tried simply upgrading pads w/ stock rotors, but a waist of time. Go big or go home, best mod for a road racer.

 

I don't believe you will get much better brake performance on the street with any aftermarket kit. If you can activate the ABS with stock brakes, you're limited by traction. On the road course, it's a whole different story. With stock brakes, I couldn't activate the ABS when running 305 slicks on the track. When you're not traction limited, you can see a braking improvement from these big brake kits. As previously mentioned, you also get fade resistance. However, this benefit would not likely ever be realized on the street.

With that said, I didn't have any problems with my stock brakes on the track. Granted, I couldn't brake as late as Jerry Jordan with his TCE brakes; but I didn't loose a whole bunch of time because of it. I've heard of other L owners burning up their brakes on the same courses I ran - but they were certainly not faster. I believe the problem to be a lot of chicken braking that doesn't allow the brakes to cool.

-Edward

P.S.: I know from first-hand experience that 16's will not clear the TCE kit.

 

Thanks for the comments.

Couple of thoughts:

The Force 10 looks promising. Guess I'll have to look over my shoulder more! What is not mentioned or shown in that pic is the need for hub modification. That remains a 'hidden cost' if what shown is the complete parts supplied. Not a big deal, but this needs to be considered on ALL the kits.

The sale of kits for 15" wheels might be huge but the value of the kit and complexity would be a major issue. Why? A 15" wheel would accept about an 11.5" rotor max depending upon the caliper used. The rotor would still need to be 1.25 or 1.375 in width and the caliper have to use HUGE amounts of piston area given the loss of torque netted from a larger rotor. The bigget issue however is fit- the hub is too big! I don't think there is enough meat on the hub to fit the studs and a slip over hat etc. You'd have to convert to a smaller hub and stud circle to have a hub you could fit the hat to. My hats are about 9.25" OD, that leaves only 2.25"/2 or 1.125" of rotor to fit the caliper on!

Cool idea, and I'm keen on why but I don't see it happening.