Heard a story today about a L in Georgetown at Dreager Ford with a blown motor. Parts everywhere. A kid 18 owns it. I'm going to go by there today and see it. The story is that he had a chip, and Ford is saying that is the cause. I wonder if it has had a pulley change. Anybody know anything about this? If not , I will find out.

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Jerry Jordan
99.5 Red Hot Bolt
13.44 @ 101.64
PSP filter and chip (tire destroyer)
Inpulse Lo-Pro bed cover
71 Cutlass conv.
Piper PA28-235
74 Suzuki TS185 (128 original miles)
Looking to buy an 8 second rear engine dragster (cheap)

 

Hey Jerry, was it a white Lightning? If it is I think I know who it is.

 

Maybe your buddy with the 6000 rpm chip and pulley?

 

Thats whats I am thinking!

 

Yes it was white. I didn't get to go by today but I will on Monday. The thing I hate is, if he had a super hot chip, and it caused the motor to blow, my dealer(the one this truck is at)will think all chips will cause this!

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Jerry Jordan
99.5 Red Hot Bolt
13.44 @ 101.64
PSP filter and chip (tire destroyer)
Inpulse Lo-Pro bed cover
71 Cutlass conv.
Piper PA28-235
74 Suzuki TS185 (128 original miles)
Looking to buy an 8 second rear engine dragster (cheap)

 

Travis, Little River had test and tune tonight, But the old ball and chain gave me a hard time. So I didn't go.

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Jerry Jordan
99.5 Red Hot Bolt
13.44 @ 101.64
PSP filter and chip (tire destroyer)
Inpulse Lo-Pro bed cover
71 Cutlass conv.
Piper PA28-235
74 Suzuki TS185 (128 original miles)
Looking to buy an 8 second rear engine dragster (cheap)

 

I take it the " old ball and chain " doesnt read any of your posts? By the way have you ever been to Little River? It shouldnt be but about 20 or 30 min. from you. I might go to Rivercity tomorrow with some friends from work, if you want to go give me a hollar. I would be willing to bet that white-L is the guy that I know with the pulley and chip. I found out today that he is or was running 6500rpms for about 3 months, wow I cant believe it is holding or held up that long. How is your chip, did you get an upgrade?

 

Travis, I have not sent my chip back yet. I was going to go to Little River first. I'll post something tommorrow if I can go with you guys. Those guys at Dreager have been telling me whatever I do, don't put on a chip. Now they will tell everyone this is what happens when you run a chip. This kid must have a dad that is NUTS, or does not know anything about motors.

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Jerry Jordan
99.5 Red Hot Bolt
13.44 @ 101.64(stock F1 tires)
PSP filter and chip (tire destroyer)
Impulse Lo-Pro bed cover
71 Cutlass conv.
Piper PA28-235
74 Suzuki TS185 (128 original miles)
Looking to buy an 8 second rear engine dragster (cheap)

 

There is no way a chip blew a motor!!!!!
I repeat "NO WAY". What blew that motor was IGNORANCE. If anyone is so dumb as to run one of these motors that hard all the time, they will, "WILL", get just what they deserve. I don't care how old you are. One other thing, if you ever hit 6000 RPM on your tach, wheels spinning, you are going to notice a sudden week spot in your performance, and as you change gears a sudden loss of power will overcome you. All of the boost goes away!!!! almost instantly.

 

I assume that a smaller pulley on the drive will increase belt rpm and therefore blower rpm and therefor blower boost. How much more boost could this engine stand without blowing headgaskets or other parts? Seems it this guy was running 6500 and increased boost with no engine mods that engine life would be short lived. At any rate please post what you find out.
Noel

 

JIGAWATT
Again I say the chip did not blow the motor, ignorance did, evidently you are smart enough not to run your L that hard even in racing. There is no gain in HP or torque at those RPM only loss of power as seen on all the dyno runs.AS the power curves drop so does time spent in those RPM areas. A total waste, even in racing. Sorry to disagree with you but been there done that a many times. I have had my L on a dyno no less than 10 times with some success and loss each time as I tuned the motor to all I could get. I currently have my **** points set at 5500 and rev limmiter at 6500 only so they do not come into play as I shift manually. All shifts when racing are made at 5300 RPM and I cross the quarter turning right at 4850 in 3rd my peak HP point on the dyno. I promise you there is nothing to gain spinning this motor any higher than 5500 - 5600 RPM, nothing except BOOOOM!

 

isa4325:
I have a chip that let's me go right past 6000rpm, with NO boost problems. As the tach only goes to 6000rpm, I can not say how high I was for sure. It seem about 6400/6500, the needle was about that spot. The L motor NEVER felt funny or STOPPED PULLING. I do not recomend this, but a chip can BLOW UP a motor when the limiter's are turned OFF!!! Anyone want a X-BRAND CHIP? ha ha ha .
This was not done because of "ignorance" It was done for RACING ONLY. If you let someone have a chip like this than you will see cases like this one happen

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JIGAWATT SVT#2698
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Ok, I went by the Ford house and saw the truck with the blown motor. They said this is the third one this kid has blown up. Ford replaced the first two (at other dealers)but found a hole in the computer case where a chip had been installed, and because of that, his warr. is void. Also said computer showed rpm's in excess of 6500 (salesman told me this part, don't know if the computer can tell how many rpm's were turned). He also had No2. If he had a undersize pulley they don't know it. He told them the No2 was not working yet, but they think it was. The service manager told me "If we can tell you had a chip installed, your warr.is void". I said that he was wrong and that he would have to prove that the chip caused the problem. He got pissed and did not want to talk to me. He has all the salesmen telling everybody that comes in the door to go look in the back if you want to see what happens when you put in a aftermarket chip. I know I will have He!! if I have any trouble. By the way, the truck is trashed. Tires are down to cord showing! It is a Black "L", not white, so its not the one you were thinking of Travis.

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Jerry Jordan
99.5 Red Hot Bolt
13.44 @ 101.64(stock F1 tires)
PSP filter and chip (tire destroyer)
Impulse Lo-Pro bed cover
71 Cutlass conv.
Piper PA28-235
74 Suzuki TS185 (128 original miles)
Looking to buy an 8 second rear engine dragster (cheap)



[This message has been edited by Jerry Jordan (edited 02-23-2000).]

 

Jerry,

Sounds like it's time to find a new dealer. Remember, you can use any Ford or Lincoln-Mercury dealer for service or warranty work. Does not have to be original or SVT dealer.

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isa4325-

So you are saying not to run any chip in your L? Or just specific chips not to run at all? I am new to this issue and will soon have a new L for myself, I am just trying to get as much information as possible. So any info would be greatly appreciated here.

2000 Lightning to strike soon!!!