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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 05:03 PM
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Another way to look at it is,There is ATLEAST 2 bidders that wanted it at colse to that price otherwise it would not of sold that high.Stan
 
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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Just need to find a dealer whos willing to work with you. They dont have to do you any favors but for the most part they'll help ya out. These things have been sitting around for years. Some will negotiate the price as the 800+ msrp is absolutely stupid on something that should have been a recall.
It doesn't matter if the item should have been a recall or not. It wasn't a recall, the government probably won't make ford declare a recall.
I do not think dealers are there to help anyone. They are there to make money. Maybe if you buy a new car every year and that dealer has an intercooler on the shelf they would charge you only 20% over cost, but why would they charge less than cost? Post the phone # of dealers who are selling these for less than cost and I'll buy a couple to sell on ebay.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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That's a STEAL for that setup, retail after the recall was over was over $800, and you can't even get them new anymore. I'd jump on that.

So if you cant get them new anymore what happens if a 99/00 truck needs one? I thought that motor companys had to keep spare parts available for a certain amount of time after a vehicle went out of production?
 
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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So if you cant get them new anymore what happens if a 99/00 truck needs one? I thought that motor companys had to keep spare parts available for a certain amount of time after a vehicle went out of production?
The recall kit updated the 99-00 trucks to use the 01-up heat exchanger. Since the recall intended all 99-00 owners to have it done, a replacement 99-00 heat exchanger will be an 01 part. They still make those. They just don't make the recall midplate anymore.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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You can save your $$ and just simply get the barrs leak gold powder from walmart for about 2 bucks! put 1 container in your resiviour and that will fix your leaky 99 intercooler.and save you from all the hassel of taken everything apart and putting it back together again ...JL
 
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 08:57 PM
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You can save your $$ and just simply get the barrs leak gold powder from walmart for about 2 bucks! put 1 container in your resiviour and that will fix your leaky 99 intercooler.and save you from all the hassel of taken everything apart and putting it back together again ...JL
Yikes!! Thats not a fix its a band-aid. Adding grit to your cooling system is a bad idea all together.

I strongly recomend up grading to a 01 lower intake and intercooler. Your truck will love you for it.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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Yikes!! Thats not a fix its a band-aid. Adding grit to your cooling system is a bad idea all together.

I strongly recomend up grading to a 01 lower intake and intercooler. Your truck will love you for it.


LOL!.. Thas a good one adding GRIT..Bad idea!..
Whatever Scott Go ahead and pay the big bucks! Thats up to you.
Why will his truck love him for upgrading to the 01 style intercooler? i'm curious...JL
 
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyLightning
Yikes!! Thats not a fix its a band-aid. Adding grit to your cooling system is a bad idea all together.

I strongly recomend up grading to a 01 lower intake and intercooler. Your truck will love you for it.


LOL!.. Thas a good one adding GRIT..Bad idea!..
Whatever Scott Go ahead and pay the big bucks! Thats up to you.
Why will his truck love him for upgrading to the 01 style intercooler? i'm curious...JL
Notice that I said lower intake and intercooler. There is a big difference in the the 99-00 to the 01 up intakes and intercoolers. You know this as well as I do My 00' runs a 01 lower intake and intercooler. Its also one of the big factors as to why the 01's and up have better HP & TQ numbers.

What does grit do?...well for one it clogs up radiators as well as intercoolers. Second, what leaks out runs in to the intake and goes through the engine.
Third, like I said its not a fix its a band-aid.
Last one just to get it out there, it changes the state of the coolant meaning the heat exchanging properties will change.
These are just some of the reasons why I do not recomend using grit tabs.
I will say though if its an emergency and it will get you to a place where you can have said leak properly repaired and the system flushed then yes by all means do what you have to do.

JL, Im a profesional mechanic and as the old saying goes you can pay me now or pay me later. Im just giving svt99 the benifit of my 23 years of repairing cars and trucks. I am not trying to flame you in any way but your advice was not good advise at all, thats all. Recomending such things only will hurt you in the long run.

Im out enjoy the rest of the thread, Peace!!

Scott
 
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 10:05 PM
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Recomending such things only will hurt you in the long run.




Well i tell you what scott, i have had over 40 99-00 Lightnings do just exactly what i said and have saved them big bucks! i have NEVER had 1 of them call back and say that GRIT hurt my intercooler and coolant system or my engine! But just about ALL of them have called me back thanking me for saving them ALL the hassel and for saving them big $$..We started using the GRIT as you put it, back in 2000. and to this date the intercoolers have NEVER leaked again and the trucks are running just fine! over 90,0000 miles on 1...
Let me ask you this since your a Professional Mechanic If that GRIT is such bad advice then why do the Original Manfactures put it in Every new vehicle they build?....JL
 
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by LightningTuner
The recall kit updated the 99-00 trucks to use the 01-up heat exchanger. Since the recall intended all 99-00 owners to have it done, a replacement 99-00 heat exchanger will be an 01 part. They still make those. They just don't make the recall midplate anymore.
Kewl thanks for the info, I was just wondering.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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Ask Caddillac what they install every time they open a coolant system for service. They put in those exact same sealant tabs that JL is talking about. It is a fix, not a hinderance.

Try doing a search on Moroso's ceramic engine sealant and you would be suprise who runs that all the time to seal their coolant systems.

God forbid JL actually gives advise that saves you money rather then spending it.

Adrenalinowner
 
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyLightning
Recomending such things only will hurt you in the long run.




Well i tell you what scott, i have had over 40 99-00 Lightnings do just exactly what i said and have saved them big bucks! i have NEVER had 1 of them call back and say that GRIT hurt my intercooler and coolant system or my engine! But just about ALL of them have called me back thanking me for saving them ALL the hassel and for saving them big $$..We started using the GRIT as you put it, back in 2000. and to this date the intercoolers have NEVER leaked again and the trucks are running just fine! over 90,0000 miles on 1...
Let me ask you this since your a Professional Mechanic If that GRIT is such bad advice then why do the Original Manfactures put it in Every new vehicle they build?....JL
Johnny, GM is the only manufacture that uses tabs and this year alone Ive replaced over 100 GM intake gaskets, so apparently they are not all that effective. Sell your band-aids Johnny you arent fixing anything.

I stated the only case where I would recomend them.

Now let me ask you this, how many vehicles do you work on a year? and how often do you go back to a trade school, college or seminars to update your knowledge and learn about what you do for a living? I spend about 12 weeks a year going back to night classes to keep myself updated yearly.
Please dont patronize me I dont care for it. I gave very sound advise. Like I said I repair cars for a living and I do have an excelent reputation for doing the job right or not at all.

JL Like I said Im not flaming you. Have a nice day.

Im sorry svt99 this thread seems to have gone in a bad direction.

Scott
 
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 10:43 PM
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Johnny, GM is the only manufacture that uses tabs and this year alone Ive replaced over 100 GM intake gaskets, so apparently they are not all that effective. Sell your band-aids Johnny you arent fixing anything.

Scott

And your doing those GM intakes because GM uses crap gaskets and even crappier Dexcool that is known to cause leaks.

GM v6's have been leaking intakes for years and not the v8's are catching up to the 6's. GM uses sealant tabs to keep the water pump from seeping out the designed weep hole causing customer complaints.

What your failing to tell everyone with all your experience is that antifreeze is very slippery and will find a place to leak out quicker than oil due to the high heat and pressure it is exposed to. The tabs help seal up areas that can be compromised easily.

Ask a foreign manufacturer why they dont have problems with leaks like US manu's do, and thats because they design less areas of compromise into the system.

Adrenalinowner
 
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by LightningTuner
The recall kit updated the 99-00 trucks to use the 01-up heat exchanger. Since the recall intended all 99-00 owners to have it done, a replacement 99-00 heat exchanger will be an 01 part. They still make those. They just don't make the recall midplate anymore.
they dont make them anymore but they arent as rare as everyone makes them out to be.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 09:24 AM
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And your doing those GM intakes because GM uses crap gaskets and even crappier Dexcool that is known to cause leaks.

GM v6's have been leaking intakes for years and not the v8's are catching up to the 6's. GM uses sealant tabs to keep the water pump from seeping out the designed weep hole causing customer complaints.

What your failing to tell everyone with all your experience is that antifreeze is very slippery and will find a place to leak out quicker than oil due to the high heat and pressure it is exposed to. The tabs help seal up areas that can be compromised easily.

Ask a foreign manufacturer why they dont have problems with leaks like US manu's do, and thats because they design less areas of compromise into the system.

Adrenalinowner
Those are some valid points on the GM's and there quick fix is to add tabs. To bad the tabs dont fix said issues, it just masks them so the customer can get down the road. You may even say a gamble that it might make it past the warranty period and become a source of revenue as a dealer repair.
DC and FoMoCo dont have these problems like the GM's do so to say that it only the american manufactures that have these issues not really true.
I work on all makes and models so I get to see a lot of short comings through out the industry.
IMHO the tabs are just a band-aid period. GM can recomend them all they want but that doesnt mean that its the proper way to repair a leak or that I should recomend them.

Scott

EDIT.
My repair adds HP & TQ do the tabs do that??
 
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