Listen, if I can raise a X-wing fighter outta a bog & then have Luke Skywalker fly away in it with having any problmes do you think a litte watter is any thing to me & my filter??? I just wrap a towel around my filter if spraying the engine off, never had water on it.

 

Understand, but do you wrap a towel around it if you get caught in a torrential downpour? Then do you change the towel ocasionally whilst driving home so you always have a dry towel around it, and if yes, how do it breath me wants to know.

Seriously, that really struck me today after washing the L, because here in FL we get got in some howling rains, and I have to think that an open filter would wind up sucking water - slightly ungood!

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Sandy (Spider) Scott
Skydive69@msn.com
Apopka, Florida
99 White Lightning #2091 DOB 6-8-99
Airaid air box & Superchip
Honda Valkyrie - 2 Bros exhaust - K&N filter -Corbin Seat (after 30 yrs. of Harley riding)

 

my ram drinks about 1/2gal of water sprayed down the throttle body every 1/4 mile run. water is like wine to an engine (it's good in moderation ) engines run smoother (cooler) when it's raining and your ingesting that mist. my K&N for my ram is right up in the front grill, where rain/carwash etc always get it wet. water spray will also clean your engine of deposits. been into my 100k ram several times, and always looks brand new.

 

I guess what made me wonder was that the following comes with the Airaid instructions:

"The air filter element is protected from direct exposure to water and debris in its new location. Care should be taken be taken not to drive through deep water. WATER INGESTION IS THE DRIVERS RESPONSIBILITY (caps BTW are theirs not mine).

Perhaps Airaid does not understand how vital it is for our engines to suck in a little water (especially through the filter element). I guess I will wash my car with the hood open in the future. The tips are appreciated.

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Sandy (Spider) Scott
Skydive69@msn.com
Apopka, Florida
99 White Lightning #2091 DOB 6-8-99
Airaid air box & Superchip
Honda Valkyrie - 2 Bros exhaust - K&N filter -Corbin Seat (after 30 yrs. of Harley riding)



[This message has been edited by skydive69 (edited 01-22-2000).]

 

sandy,
in moderation , deep water where your filter is submerged is a bad thing, and will usually cost you an engine. they do make a snorkle type air filter that is similar to the big rigs vertical stacks, if your planning to ford some streams

 

Yep, deep water is what they were talking about. Suck in a decent amount of water and your motor's done. Water doesn't combust or compress very easily.

Paxton had a system for the LT1 Camaros that actually sprayed water into the intake intentionally to help control detonation, but like BBQ said, you have to do it in moderation.

 

Sandy,

The quick answer for the PSP filter is the outerwears cover. It's water resistant, not waterproof but it should keep the filter element dry in all but a direct engine compartment washdown.

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Mark Whatman
mwhatman@worldnet.att.net

• 99.5 White Lightning (PSP Filter & Chip)
• 99 Buell S3 Thunderbolt (not stock!)
• 98 F-150 Lariat (Flowmaster)
• 96 26' Velocity Offshore Race Boat (far from stock!!!)

 

Hey guys, Sal here. The defense agianst water ingestion on open cone filters, is the filter oil. It is resistant to water, and therefore repels and water that may come in contact with the filter. In the case of the truck going through a huge amount of water that would force water in through the fender inlet, it would simply drain back into the engine bay, where the AirRaid would collect it and it would be ingested into the engine by force. That is probably the reason for thier disclaimer. Keep in mind you would have to drive through VERY deep water for this to occur.

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SAL
13.35@103mph
All stock with PSP 99 Lightning Chip and Filter Kit

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Thanks Sal, that does make sense. As an engineer by schooling, those kind of things always pique my curiosity. It just really struck me when I saw all of that water on the front of the Airbox, and I mistakenly thought it was an absolute no no to get water on the filter. One of the things that made me think that apart from the caveats expressed by Airaid was the instructions on the K&N filter kit which also indicates that the filter must be dry of moisture prior to re-installation.

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Sandy (Spider) Scott
Skydive69@msn.com
Apopka, Florida
99 White Lightning #2091 DOB 6-8-99
Airaid air box & Superchip
Honda Valkyrie - 2 Bros exhaust - K&N filter -Corbin Seat (after 30 yrs. of Harley riding)

 

the reason the k&n must be bone dry b4 re-installation, is so the the cotton media can absorb the new filter oil, otherwise the oil is going to be heading downwind.

 

Well, I'm glad I asked, there is so much to know. And Mark, the only issue with the cover, is that many do not run with the cover.

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Sandy (Spider) Scott
Skydive69@msn.com
Apopka, Florida
99 White Lightning #2091 DOB 6-8-99
Airaid air box & Superchip
Honda Valkyrie - 2 Bros exhaust - K&N filter -Corbin Seat (after 30 yrs. of Harley riding)

 

After washing my L today, I opened the hood to detail the engine. The front of my Airaid Airbox had water splashed all about, but there was not a drop inside the airbox due to the fact that the Airaid unit (although it has an open top) is engineered to seal to the top of the hood when it is closed. In that the PSP & Downs units simply sport an open filter arrangement, how is the filter kept dry during very heavy rain or washing of the vehicle? The water would have been all over my filter had it not been sealed. This question is asked with the assumption, and it is my assumption, that it is a no no to get your filter element wet. Hmmmmmm?

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Sandy (Spider) Scott
Skydive69@msn.com
Apopka, Florida
99 White Lightning #2091 DOB 6-8-99
Airaid air box & Superchip
Honda Valkyrie - 2 Bros exhaust - K&N filter -Corbin Seat (after 30 yrs. of Harley riding)

 

Well guys, my answer is the outer pre-filter on Sal's installation and a plastic bag from Safeway when I powerwash it. Although you have to remove the system to install the pre-filter (unless you received both at the same time), the plastic bag fits on the installed system slick as a whistle. You then tie up the two handles, powerwash your engine, remove the plastic bag and voila' a dry filter. I suppose you could use a garbage bag as well, but heck they aren't free!

For my next trick, I'll tell you where I mounted my invisible chip switch!

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