how many of youhave converted your old lightnings to mass air and with what results??? what system did you use ? i know motor sports has one and sal has one with a chip.. my roller rockers and bora exhaust with short belt really made a difference especially when the timing is bumped to 15

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99.5 Lightning red
95.5 Lightning red
95 4x4 PowerStroke f=350 red
83 GT convt red
70 CJ428 Mach1
70 351c Twister Mach1
70 Cobra 429SCJ Twister
75 351 Bricklen

 

I bought the conversion kit that Tommie Vaughn sells here in Houston for my 94 Lightning. Never installed the thing and ended up trading the truck in for my 99 L. Still have the complete kit sitting in my closet.

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Jerrod Gross
99.5 White Lightning
#1414, May 19,1999
Snuglid, sprayed on bed liner, 8.84sec/79.8mph (1/8th)(before mods.)
SHM mass air/conical filter & chip, ASP blower pulley
phantom boost gauge

 

I bought the same kit from Tommie Vaughn for the '93 I had prior to my 99. The Motorsport kit I feel is very complete for the price compared to others on the market. I believe I paid $850 for it. Came w/ 30# injectors, 80mm air meter, harness, computer, air box, and larger air intake hose. The benefit I see w/ the other kits on the market is that you get a chip burned for your combination but does not come w/ injectors, $850 for Motorsport seems alot better than some kits out there for $1100.

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David Sauls (Alvin,Tx.)
White 99 #2895
Birth 7-16-99
Superchips
self made air intake
13.51@ 101.95 1st and only run on current mods

 

jerrod if you want to sell it e-mail me at Lightning2Strikes@hotmail.. i am not sure if they are the same for 95's there was a puter change i know the chips won't interchange. i can check with tommy and find out i guess .. i am looking at a low milage 94 if i get my 95 sold..

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99.5 Lightning red
95.5 Lightning red
95 4x4 PowerStroke f=350 red
83 GT convt red
70 CJ428 Mach1
70 351c Twister Mach1
70 Cobra 429SCJ Twister
75 351 Bricklen

 

lightning,
I believe the kit I bought was from Pro-M themselves. It uses the stock injectors, have new injector harness, map sensor, Pro-M meter(77mm), cone filter, intake tube, adapter harness, computer, and misc. hardware. It uses the truck computer to shift the trans. and a computer with the kit to control the engine. IMHO, the kit that Stang58 is talking about is much better and easier to install and much more straight forward.
You also have to relocate the one oxygen sensor below one header and install another one at the other. Other kits do not require this.
NLOC also has a kit that is suppose to be very good. And I believe Sal has one also.

I would be willing to part with it for $500, but I think for a few hundred more, you could buy a better/easier kit. Just my .02c

jwgross@texas.net


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Jerrod Gross
99.5 White Lightning
#1414, May 19,1999
Snuglid, sprayed on bed liner, 8.84sec/79.8mph (1/8th)(before mods.)
SHM mass air/conical filter & chip, ASP blower pulley
phantom boost gauge

 

Lightning mass air kit for sale .... With oter oem lightning take off parts. will sell for $250.00 like new.. I have two units. because I hqad two trucks.... also have stock lightning com,puter for sale will sell for $125.00 ... e-mail me at cobra@ismi.net.

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Now this is a BIG can of worms... but I've had three different mass air setups on my '95 so I'll offer a little commentary.

I started with a Pro-M kit, which uses a C3W1 Mustang computer to drive the engine and the stock truck computer to drive the transmission. The nice thing about this kit is it is so simple to install and anyone who can tune a Mustang can tune the kit. I used it to good effect, eventually running 12.0s with it on good tires, but trying to drive the truck on street tires at WOT was a LOT of fun because I couldn't control the aggressiveness of the tranny shifts. Launching in second gear I could run 13.50s@110 mph.

Somewhere in the middle of my time with the Pro-M I installed the Kenne Bell mass air, which uses the computer form a Cali MA 5.8l Bronco with the E4OD tranny. It worked fine except that it couldn't be tuned by anyone but Kenne Bell and that was an excercise in frustration, so I went back to the Pro-M.

I needed to get control of the tranny and wanted to use custom shift points, so I think switched the Sal's kit. Through him tuning it for me, it runs and works great but it's been a lot of fun getting there. Sal is the only person who can tune it, so should he get hit by a bus, I'm screwed.

So, in short, the Pro-M is the simplest of these to install and easiest to tune, but the lack of tranny control can be a real issue. The Kenne Bell... well, I'd only recommend it if you live in California. Sal's has been great, toughest to install though and is tunable by only one person.

No one can tune the Motorsport one at this time, though, and honestly I haven't seen very impressive results from the unit to this point. Some real interesting drivability issues cropping up.

If you don't run or plan to run a big cam, stay speed density and get it tuned correctly. The last issue of the NLOC newsletter profiled James Crowder's truck, which is just as fast as mine and still runs speed density. He used the Crane Lightning cam and that allows him to stay speed density. Chris Johnson tuned the truck using a wide band O2 sensor and the results are pretty impressive - A truck with stock, ported iron heads, speed density, and a S-trim running 11.9x in the quarter mile. He's probably spent a third of what I have to go that fast.



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Later!
Jeff S.
President, National Lightning Owners Club - http://nloc.org
SVT Lightning #74 in '95
11.92@115.2 on radials, driven daily
jeff_s@nloc.org or fmosracing@aol.com