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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 02:31 AM
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no no were on the same page. yeah, i was under it pullin to the passenger side. oddly enough yes, i did loop a rachet strap tword the end of bout a 2' cheater. then attached the other end to a stud in my garage. we got it pretty dang tight theni smacked it. nothing. i had my buddy stand on the strap to apply even more pull then i smacked it a good ten times. nothing. the lock didnt get bent. i put it on the drivers side so its pulling not pushing against it. the 14mm center hole is starting to get some slop in it. if that thing strips out ill start crying
 
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 03:08 AM
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Have you losened the three nuts that are holding the cage down? They must be backed off before trying to break the center hex lose (clock wise). Just trying to cover the basic's,.......... I broke mine lose from the top as you can get a longer bar (36" 3/4" galvanized pipe is what I used) on the end of the ratchet or breaker bar. I have an e-fan (JDM) & removed the shroud assembly to have clearer access to the lower pulley from the top,.. broke lose on first pull.
Hope this helps & good luck!!
 
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 04:47 AM
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i was considering that. is it hard to pull the fan?
 
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Shooter
the lock didnt get bent. i put it on the drivers side so its pulling not pushing against it.
DOH!! I'm such a dumb azz!! That's right my buddy put his on the passenger side because he doesn't know jack about cars/trucks and I told him to just leave it because it still had the motor locked...big mistake. Anyway you are good there, my bad.

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the 14mm center hole is starting to get some slop in it. if that thing strips out ill start crying
At this point you need to stop and back away for a little while. Have you also posted on NLOC, SVT Performance and Lightningrodder? If not you need to. There have been guys that went through exactly what you are going through so some one is bound to have an idea that can help.

I will start searching the boards for any ideas that I don't see in this thread and if I find anything I will post it.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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Apply heat. This a last resort method that always works. Just heat up the pulley surrounding spindle and give her a hard tug. Repeat until it's hot enough to expand the pulley away from the spindle. Be patient.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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Pulled these post from some guys that were going what you are going through. From reading these posts it appears that pressure alone isn't going to work unless you use kerno's method. Hopefully this will give you some more ideas. As Odin's Wrath stated "heat" may be the answer. I hope this helps.

Originally Posted by kerno
Once you have the front of the truck nicely supported on jack stands, you then have the jack itself available, right?

Put the jack under the end of the wrench, pump it a couple times and the pulley should come right off. I did one that took an astonishing amount of force to get off, but the jack made it easy.

When all else fails, cheat!
Originally Posted by SVT_KY
Whatever method you use, the best results come
when you "shock" it ... I find a 5 pound hammer abvout right ...
Originally Posted by LTNBOLT
Put a pipe on the end of your breaker bar. Lay on your side on the driverside of the truck. Have the breaker bar pointing straight down so the floor will keep the pipe from sliding off. Put both feet on the end of the pipe and use them to barely lift it off the floor so it won't drag. Grab the sway bar with both hands and put just enough pressure on the pipe to take up any slack. A quick snap with both legs should do it. I found out the steady pressure won't do it. It takes a quick snap with a lot of torque to break it loose. Good Luck. I was in your shoes last Tuesday.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 02:33 PM
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thank-you very much, i guess atleast im not alone in my boat. im gonna try it again today. maybe just driving it and trying to crack it while is good and warm may help. i also like the jack idea that sounds solid. i already tried the legs thing. it was nice to cuddle with my truck, but it was to no avail. alson if none of that will work. ill pill the fan and shroud. maybe my hood so i can fit a 8 footer on that beast j/k.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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If you can get a 6 point impact socket that will be better that a regular one. Also a name brand i.e. Craftsman or Snapon seem like better sockets too...You do not want a socket rounding or breaking especially with all that torque on it... Be careful so that if something slips you won't get a broken nose or something...Good luck...
 
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 07:44 PM
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Pulley Day - 2

well i went out to my shop today with everyones advise in mind. but when i went to try the jack thing (which im sure would work as i highly doubt it would lift the truck). and there was no room at all. it looked like i would have to do some serious hose relocating to pull it off. from above it looked even tighter. how hard is it to pull the fan and shroud? im starting to wonder if i could take it somewhere and have it done. my dog did a nice job of chewing up the last page of the JLP instructions before i got to that part, so if anyone knows where i could pick up a copy of something along those lines that'd be cool. i think it had a step in there that was for 99-00 L's only. mines a 00. this is sad i was all worried about cleaning the intercooler and that only took 4 hours. im gonna get misty if i ever get this thing going
 

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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 10:32 PM
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When I took mine off, I was like many others and yourself; had the front end up on jackstands with as long a piece of pipe I could get over my breaker bar and coiled up underneath there like a cobra - and yanked and kicked away at the pipe extension - and I didn't think it would ever break loose - I was getting discouraged - but all of sudden - it broke loose. But I was getting pretty close to pulling the fan and going at it from the top where I knew I get some real leverage on it, or going to local shop and paying them to get it up on lift. The fan can be pretty easy - or sometimes pretty tough to get off too - but it's easier than laying underneath it.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Shooter
Pulley Day - 2

well i went out to my shop today with everyones advise in mind. but when i went to try the jack thing (which im sure would work as i highly doubt it would lift the truck). and there was no room at all. it looked like i would have to do some serious hose relocating to pull it off. from above it looked even tighter. how hard is it to pull the fan and shroud? im starting to wonder if i could take it somewhere and have it done. my dog did a nice job of chewing up the last page of the JLP instructions before i got to that part, so if anyone knows where i could pick up a copy of something along those lines that'd be cool. i think it had a step in there that was for 99-00 L's only. mines a 00. this is sad i was all worried about cleaning the intercooler and that only took 4 hours. im gonna get misty if i ever get this thing going
GOOD GAWD!!! I feel for you Big Shooter. I found some more posts, I don't know how I missed this one but "R Rider" is replying to the post by "kerno":

Originally Posted by R_Rider
"Put the jack under the end of the wrench, pump it a couple times and the pulley should come right off. I did one that took an astonishing amount of force to get off, but the jack made it easy."

That's what I just did.

I cut a Home Depot wrench in half with a Sawzall first, it made it easier to manipulate with the jack.
More Posts. These guys are talking about a JDM pulley but it shouldn't matter what pulley we are discussing here because you are having the same he!! with a stock pulley that they did with the JDM pulley.

Originally Posted by Tim Cowley
Well lets see I broke a large Craftsman ratchet, A 24in breakover bar, another breakover bar, and a Craftsman brakover bar. So SkankDog and I used a come-a-long tied to a heavy metal post on a fence and connected it to another breakover bar. Pulled it just snug and used a torch on the pulley and the thing just came right off. Force would have never made it move. So when it won't come off, a turbo torch is mighty handy.
Originally Posted by Skank Dog
It was a pain to remove! The absolute best, painless way to remove a JDM pulley is to get some type of come-a-long or in our case an overhead chain hoist........... and hook one end up to something firmly planted....a post,tree, or bumper of another truck. All this is done to the passanger side of the Lightning because thats the way you'll be pulling, then install the breaker bar with hexagon tool into pulley and hook other end of hoist chain to lower end of breaker bar and start putting tension on it. After you have firm tension on the pulley(breaker bar will be slightly bending due to the force) light ya a torch of some sort and apply the flame to the part of the pulley that screws into your crank. After a few minutes of heating, the pulley will break loose and all you have to do is unscrew it. Its also best to remove the three bolts that hold your cage in place before doing any of this. Hope this helps! After breaking that many bars and all the trips into town, this was the best and quickest way Tim and I found to do it, hope it helps someone out.

Rodney
OK I just re-read your post and went and looked at my truck. Were you trying to use the jack by itself? If so I can see how there is no way it would work. But there is room to use a jack if you use a 2"x4" piece of wood. Get a wrench that fits the hex head tool and cut it if you have to as R Rider did. A 1/2" drive ratchet might work as well. Place the wrench or ratchet on the hex head tool to where it is parallel to the ground, line up the jack and the wrench/ratchet, get the 2"x4" and use it vertically to where the 2"x4" is standing on the jack and move the other end under the wrench. Now jack it up. If this doesn't work then you may have to put some heat on it and use the method described by Tim Cowley and Skank Dog.

I didn't see any JLP instructions but I did find a post by Sal that has some instructions. Maybe these will help with the rest of your install once you get that friggin bolt loose.

Originally Posted by LightningTuner
Here you go...

http://members.aol.com/powersurgeper...eyinstall.html

Keep in mind that this install shows a 99-00 style. The 01-up ios the same thing, it just doesn't have the adapter (it's part of the balancer on 01-up). I made this install page back in 99 when I designed the cageless Lightning pulley, so it's kind of old .
Man I hope you get that dude broke loose. GOOD LUCK!!!
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 01:54 PM
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duh... why the heck didnt i see that. yeah using a piece of wood to help reach up to the wrench should work ill try it tomorrow
 
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