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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 04:20 PM
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Keys! (uk).. Help!

Hello again from the UK
I have a 2003 L that i LUUUUUUUUURRRRVV!!
I only have one key for it! and i know if i loose it im buggered!!
I have 2 cut keys coming from Florida next week but can not find anyone that can programme to the truck can anyone help??? I live in Portsmouth Hants.
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thanx tons Mike
 
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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are you talking about the keyless entry remote?
 
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 02:53 AM
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No unfortunately not, the main key to start the truck with the chip in it... I have spoken to my local for dealer who have the WDS machine same as in the US however they do not have the software on for US vehicles it's a right pain in the butt! Mike
 
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 09:24 AM
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My camaro key had a chip in it........just a PITA IMO.

I've never heard of our Ford keys with chips in 'em.

Can you take a picture of the key that you have now?
 
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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The key to your 99 lightning has a "chip" in it.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 11:45 AM
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When I had my mustang I had to get a new computer for it, and they had to program my keys for the computer swap, origianlly the guys at AMP performance in Phoenix said that most pop-a-lock services had the computer to program them. I couldn't find anyone around here that had one so I had to let the Ford place do it. The unit is called a NGS so try to call around and see who has one of these, with American manufaturer codes. Good luck!
 
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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I am sure there is a way to programm the keys in the owners manual.
If not just take your good key and hide it somewhere under the dash this will disable the PATS (some places do this when they install remote starters) and you should be able to use any duplicate kiey you want. the only bad side is the alarm will not be active either (PATS) but you will not have to worry about losing the only other good key
Last thought maybe they can programm keys by your vin number here in the states and mail you the keys preprogrammed

Good Luck
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 03:58 PM
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Placing the original key under the dash is probably the best idea.
Find a place where the PATS system can read it and secure it there. Then use your copies for day to day use.

It takes two keys to program new keys on the models that can be programed by the owner. I did this on my 2002. Since you only have one, your kinda screwed.


Good Luck!
 
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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Re: Keys! (uk).. Help!

Originally posted by IKON
Hello again from the UK
I have a 2003 L that i LUUUUUUUUURRRRVV!!
I only have one key for it! and i know if i loose it im buggered!!
I have 2 cut keys coming from Florida next week but can not find anyone that can programme to the truck can anyone help??? I live in Portsmouth Hants.
cecil.house@btinternet.com
thanx tons Mike
There's a technician at my local Ford dealers in Maidstone, Kent who has offered to program one of my imports (also with only one key). He specializes in US Ford maintenace. They need all the paperwork (V5 etc) during office hours to get authorization from Ford, then a hour or so to program the key. If this is of use to you, let me know and I'll dig out his contact details. He can also supply the keys.
 

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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 07:16 AM
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As SLICK0478 stated, the process required to program a new key is contained within the Owner's Manual.

Wilk
 
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by wilywilky
As SLICK0478 stated, the process required to program a new key is contained within the Owner's Manual.

Wilk
To program a new key like that, you must have the two original keys. Therein lies his problem. He has only one key.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 03:35 PM
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Here is a little bit of reading on these types of keys.


What is a Transponder Key?
(transmitter-responder= transponder)

Basically it is a radio transmitter / receiver device that is programmed into your cars computer at the factory. If the vehicle's computer does not receive the correct key identification response when the key is turned to the on position, it will not start. No fuel, no spark, no starter. No Go. (Vehicle cannot be hot wired.)


Ford Transponders:


Ford has three systems in use at present:
PATS I, PATS II & EPATS (encryped keys)

PATS I: Have a transponder key made by code, fitting, or duplicating. Follow the owners manual for programming key into system.





PATS II: Requires two original keys be available. If only one key is available-or if keys are lost, programming requires special equipment at a Ford Dealer or a Locksmith that has the (NGS) programmer. Able Locksmith has the (NGS).

PATS I Vehicles:

1996-97 Mustang 1998 Navigator
1996-97 Taurus & Sable 1998 Contour & Mystique
1997-98 Expedition 1997-98 Lincoln Mark VIII

PATS II Vehicles: Also EPATS, (Key has Ford or Mercury Logo inlay, 2000 up)
1998 & up: Mustang, Taurus, Sable, Explorer, Expedition, Navigator, Mountaineer, Crown Victoria, Grand Marquis, Lincoln Continental.

2000 & up: All Vehicles except Escort and Diesel Pick up.


FORD & CHRYSLER NOTE! If a key has been lost or stolen all keys can be erased from memory and existing keys reprogrammed back into the system.
Have at least 3 keys for these cars. When your down to 1 key you cannot program additional keys by yourself. The appropiate programming device must then be used to add more keys. Up to 8 keys can be accepted. READ YOUR MANUAL!
FORD EPATS keys change to a new ID number each time the key is used.
 
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