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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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**Strange Engineering REAR SHOCKS** (ADJUSTABLE, INEXPENSIVE)

Well here it goes.
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(like all posts, You ahve to include some type of disclaimer)

First,
I don't want this to turn into a QA1 (or other shock) Vs. Stange's Shock.

Second,
The QA1's are better. Period. They are much more adjustable, however they cost a substantial amount more. Same with Penske.

Third,
These are NOT designed for the lightning, however they work quite well. They are designed for a mustang. They fit, they work, enough said.
Originally posted by retics4me (10-29-2003 03:11 PM)
87-93 rear mustang shocks will fit . I put a set of regular stang shocks just to see if the strange would fit. I havnt gotten around to buying the drag shocks yet . Im more concerned with finding a cheap alternative for the front besides QA1s

Fourth,
Here is some added info from a fellow member who contacted Strange Engineering over a year ago.
Originally posted by crockett59 (10-30-2003 10:24 AM)
I got the e-mail back from Strange this morning. Here goes.....


Dear Dave,
Strange Engineering does not offer a replacement shock for any type of F-150 truck. As of now, there are no plans to do one. The reason, I would suspect, the QA1 shocks are so expensive would that there is not a big enough demand for them to do a run of shocks in big quantities. Sorry we could not be more helpful.
Sincerely,
J.C. Cascio

www.strangeenginneering.net is there Website BTW.
Lastly,
These will only work if your rear end is lowered at least 2". Now I know the later Lightnings '03-'04 have the rear end that appears to sit higher in the air then previous years. So I am GUESSING, that those years would have to be lowered MORE THAN 2". (that is unless the shock placement is different)

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With that being said:

http://www.strangeengineering.net/catalog/49.html

STRANGE MUSTANG SHOCKS
- 10 performance settings
- Easily accessable external rebound (extension) adjustment
- Fits most OEM applications and most coil-over kits
- Ideal for street/strip
- Steel construction

MODEL #
S6000EM
- '79-93 Mustang Shock
- Strange externally adjustable (10 rebound adjustments)
- $64.27/ EACH ($128.54 a pair)

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I've never heard of Strange Engineering?
http://www.strangeengineering.net/ (climb out of the cave you've been hiding in)

Will they Fit?
Yes, If you have the rear lowered at least 2"

How do you know?
They are installed on my truck(1999), I bought them off "Booger" who had them on his truck.

What if I'm lowered more than 2"?
I have no idea

Will they fit a '03-04?
Yes, but you may have to be lower than 2" in the rear becuase it appears those years sit higher in the rear end than previous years.

But these are valved for a Mustang, they won't work on a lightning?
Yes, they are valved for a mustang and most likely work better on a mustang. I'm just offering you an option for a rear shock, if you don't think they will work don't buy them spend several hundred more for QA1's or Penske. However, there are several lightnings running around with MUSTANG rear shocks on them. I'm one of them.

What is the weight of the rear of a lightning compared to the weight of the rear of the Mustang?
No idea. But the lightning is relatively light in the rear given that the bed sides are a poly-plastic (someone will correct me) and not solid steel. Is it close? honestly no idea.

Is that price right?
Well, it's straight from Strange Engineering's website, so you tell me.

Where can I buy some?
here

If you wanted to convert the rear shocks to a coil-over design, I'm certain Strange has something for you that would work. Might involve a little welding in off different shock mounts, but that is simple enough

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These Strange Shocks would most likely work best for drag race applications. Reason being is that they are softer than the "lightning" shocks, allowing the rear end to squat more on launch. When the rear of the Lightning squats you have more weight transfered to the rear tires, resulting in more traction and generally better 60' times.
This should allow you to continue to embarass those ugly srt-10's trucks.
I wouldn't recommend them for auto-X, where you need a shock valved specifically for your application (not vehicle). Since hardcore Auto-X vehicles have substantial modifications an off the shelf shock may be counter productive. You remove a few hundred pounds of weight from an auto-X vehicle and then all suspension mods, a typical shock will not be valved correctly to achieve the performance that you are going after. Therefore, substantial research into auto-X shocks for your specific application (not vehicle) is required.

Now, The following information regarding the Lightning was taken from svt.ford.com
weight = 4700lbs.
weight distribution
front 57%
rear 43%

Meaning that the back half of the lightning weighs 2021lbs.


Now, a 1990 mustang GT convertible
http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/273.html
weight = 3900lbs
weight distribution
front = 58%
Rear = 42%
Meaning that the back half of a Mustang weighs 1638lbs.
(although the owner of the claims 2000lbs on the rear)


What I find curious is that this strange engineering shock will fit any mustang from 1979-1993 (regardless of weight)
Why do I find that curious?

Well the lightest of those cars was the 1979 standard 2 door mustang weighing in at 2530lbs.

One of the heaviest of those cars was built in 1990 Gt convertible weighing in 3900lbs.


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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 02:00 PM
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Good write up I-menace! Pretty much covered all bases.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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I am using the Strange sturts on my mustang and they work great. I don't have the rear shocks for them though. I should pick up a set and try them on my lightning and see how they work. And if they don't work well. I can always throw them on the mustang. I did not know that we could get away with mustang shocks on these trucks.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by 2000L
Good write up I-menace! Pretty much covered all bases.
: o ) yes it does, niiiiiiiiiiiiice post, + great info I-menace
Somehow I expected to hear more
AND TG he didn't post it in that Rob Bashing post
 
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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The problem I can see is that the Strange shock is made for the weight of a Mustang and not for a Lightning. Shocks are dampened according to the weight of the vehicle they are designed for. Just because a shock will fit, doesn't mean it's appropriate for the application. Shocks are made to control and distribute the weight of the vehicle so it's important to use a shock that is designed for that application. It would be one thing if both vehicles were similar weight, but even at that the Mustang and Lightning weight distribution is completely different, which would require different shock characturistics.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by MaxTorque02
The problem I can see is that the Strange shock is made for the weight of a Mustang and not for a Lightning. Shocks are dampened according to the weight of the vehicle they are designed for. Just because a shock will fit, doesn't mean it's appropriate for the application. Shocks are made to control and distribute the weight of the vehicle so it's important to use a shock that is designed for that application. It would be one thing if both vehicles were similar weight, but even at that the Mustang and Lightning weight distribution is completely different, which would require different shock characturistics.
I was thinking the same thing but, after RE-reading his last statements. it sounds more like he's only interested in price.
so if you "Modify" your truck to fit a less expensive shock for a Lightwieght application, no matter how it performs, it's all good cause you saved money, and if you don't think that way Kiss his A, and spend more money for the Proper parts.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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If you think this is a "lightweight shock" perhaps you should check out the strange engineering site and see how "whimpy" the products they produce are.
http://www.strangeengineering.net/ne...g-6-22-04.html
If you are going to put that rear end on your mustang, I'm assuming that all the weight of the car will be on the rear shocks as it drags the rear bumper on the ground on launch. (couldn't find a mustang video off hand)

http://www.motorcityoutlaws.com/user...2/chevette.wmv

http://www.motorcityoutlaws.com/user...302/camaro.wmv


please don't forget these are purpose built adjustable drag shocks, not every day, universal shocks like the bilsteins, penske or QA1's.

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On my old mustang (1981 with 351 windsor with C4 (big block springs in the front)) I had 90/10 shocks on the front, with stock leafs and shocks on ther rear so it would squat.

"For example, a shock that has 90 percent of its total stiffness in compression control and 10 percent of its total stiffness in rebound control is referred to as a '90/10" shock."
much better weight transfer to the rear end.

Basic info

http://www.hotrodders.com/t54118.html


More technical info:

http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2...ks/index.shtml

http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...ck/index1.html


I searched on Google "90/10 shock"


please lets keep this thread on track, there is good information here

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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 05:50 PM
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Nice bit of information

But you just knew somebody would have something negitive to say. Afterall, this IS F150online
 
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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Why would you want the 79-93 ones vs. the 94-02's? I have been to their place and they build quality stuff...
 
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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Originally posted by Fast Gator
Nice bit of information

But you just knew somebody would have something negitive to say. Afterall, this IS F150online
Naw, not trying to be negative at all.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by MaxTorque02
Naw, not trying to be negative at all.
Not you , I thinkIt was aimed at me. L-menace like's to stir the pot once and a while, I just thought I' have fun with him tonight, see what kind of answer he had
 
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Originally posted by D Davis
Not you , I thinkIt was aimed at me. L-menace like's to stir the pot once and a while, I just thought I' have fun with him tonight, see what kind of answer he had
Not my buddy!


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Originally posted by Suavy
Not my buddy!


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NA not him, LOL
 
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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 07:56 AM
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what's the part# for the QA-1's?
If it's MU7855P like the shock one of the SV's shipped to a friend, try this # (122-MU7855P) at jegs.com
If it's not, nevermind. If it is, be sure to notice the application
 
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Originally Posted by liteitup
what's the part# for the QA-1's?
If it's MU7855P like the shock one of the SV's shipped to a friend, try this # (122-MU7855P) at jegs.com
If it's not, nevermind. If it is, be sure to notice the application

WTF ..........

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So l-menace did you improve your 60 with these shocks ?
 
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