How Much Octane is too much?
How Much Octane is too much?
When does it begin to hurt rather than help I went to the track last weekend and all They had was 110 so I put in a little but didn't know the breakdown.
P.S. Im at 5000-6000 feet above sea level.
Thanks
P.S. Im at 5000-6000 feet above sea level.
Thanks
Originally posted by chimshady1
Im pretty sure that 103 is going to be the highest unleaded you can get.Anything higher is leaded and if continued to use u will burn out your oxygen sensors.
Im pretty sure that 103 is going to be the highest unleaded you can get.Anything higher is leaded and if continued to use u will burn out your oxygen sensors.
I have no idea how you came to those octane figures
Toluene is:
R+M/2 114
So that mix is 279 + 114 / 4 = 98.25oct
Still a damn good octane brew and using MMO will curb that 25% T mix, but if you think youre running 112 pts worth of knock protection youre nuts.
Toluene is:
R+M/2 114
So that mix is 279 + 114 / 4 = 98.25oct
Still a damn good octane brew and using MMO will curb that 25% T mix, but if you think youre running 112 pts worth of knock protection youre nuts.
Originally posted by chimshady1
Im pretty sure that 103 is going to be the highest unleaded you can get.Anything higher is leaded and if continued to use u will burn out your oxygen sensors.
Im pretty sure that 103 is going to be the highest unleaded you can get.Anything higher is leaded and if continued to use u will burn out your oxygen sensors.
I second this..............
PEacE....................
Jim
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My bad I misread the octane I thought the final octane was that for the toulene, I was wrong... DOH
From another post... I mixed up the numbers
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Xylene (117 R+M/2 octane) & Toluene (114 R+M/2 octane) are the most effective of the commonly available 'boosters' & can usually be found at paint supply stores like Sherwin WIlliams or Duron for $25 ~ 35 per 5 gallon can. The following is the most cost effective 'ratio' for using these products:
1 gallon of booster for every 3 gallons of pump gas
SOOoo for Xylene: (117 * 3) + (93 * 9) / 12 = 99 octane final mix
And for Toluene: (114 * 3) + (93 * 9) / 12 = 98.25 octane final mix
You also need to be sure and add ~0.5 ounces of a top cylinder lube such as Marvel Mystery Oil per gallon of booster. The lubricants normally found in pump gas WILL get diluted by the xylene / toluene & the MMO will bring it back up to spec. AN added benefit of running a xylene / toluene blend is that they are excellent fuel system cleaners & over a few tanks will remove 99.9% of any varnished old gas residue in the fuel system AND carbon buildup in the combustion chamber.
Keep in mind, you'll need to get a re-tune to take advantage of the extra octane, anyone dumping it into a bone stock ride & expecting to go faster will be sorely disappointed.
Doug C.
My bad I misread the octane I thought the final octane was that for the toulene, I was wrong... DOH
From another post... I mixed up the numbers
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...Marvel+Mystery
Xylene (117 R+M/2 octane) & Toluene (114 R+M/2 octane) are the most effective of the commonly available 'boosters' & can usually be found at paint supply stores like Sherwin WIlliams or Duron for $25 ~ 35 per 5 gallon can. The following is the most cost effective 'ratio' for using these products:
1 gallon of booster for every 3 gallons of pump gas
SOOoo for Xylene: (117 * 3) + (93 * 9) / 12 = 99 octane final mix
And for Toluene: (114 * 3) + (93 * 9) / 12 = 98.25 octane final mix
You also need to be sure and add ~0.5 ounces of a top cylinder lube such as Marvel Mystery Oil per gallon of booster. The lubricants normally found in pump gas WILL get diluted by the xylene / toluene & the MMO will bring it back up to spec. AN added benefit of running a xylene / toluene blend is that they are excellent fuel system cleaners & over a few tanks will remove 99.9% of any varnished old gas residue in the fuel system AND carbon buildup in the combustion chamber.
Keep in mind, you'll need to get a re-tune to take advantage of the extra octane, anyone dumping it into a bone stock ride & expecting to go faster will be sorely disappointed.
Doug C.
Adding ATF or something like MMO is fine but not required if you run less than a 20% toluene/xylene mixture.
Glad to see a humble correction Doug C, lotsa forums will flame users with 2 posts who drop tech bombs on the elders
Glad to see a humble correction Doug C, lotsa forums will flame users with 2 posts who drop tech bombs on the elders
Originally posted by l-menace
run what you are tuned for.. simple as that.
If you run too high an octane than you are tuned, expect lower times.
run what you are tuned for.. simple as that.
If you run too high an octane than you are tuned, expect lower times.
dont run more octane than your tuned for.........its just a waste of money and it will reduce power......unless you like the smell
whoa whoa whoa...
I'm not the smart one... that was copied and pasted from a different thread..
I'm not sure who Doug C is, but he deserves the credit, not me.
I'm not the smart one... that was copied and pasted from a different thread..
I'm not sure who Doug C is, but he deserves the credit, not me.


