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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 11:23 AM
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I had the prototype put on my Lightning over a year ago. It keeps my innercooler fluid very cool and the product is very good for consistent runs down the quarter mile. It has been tested on the dyno but there is no appreciable difference in Horsepower.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by Greez Lightning
. . . It has been tested on the dyno but there is no appreciable difference in Horsepower.
You mean even when the water was verified to have been chilled?

SVT got 50 HP out of its "cold water dump" system.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 12:37 PM
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hmm

those track results don't really show any gains. The lower et's are directly related to lower 60 ft times on those runs.

Looks like a hell of alot of plumbing under there. I would want alot better documentation that it's doing more for all of that. I bet up here in the northeast we'd see better gains then you folks down in the hot Texas air. Nice job on the install.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 12:46 PM
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It has been tested on the dyno but there is no appreciable difference in Horsepower.
A chassie dyno really can't be used to measure small differances. An engine dyno would be much more accurate as to what's going on.

If you have a 50F drop in intake temps and the blower is pushing the air pretty good (4#+ lower) then it's definately getting a denser charge.

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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 03:00 PM
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Re: hmm

Originally posted by tallimeca
those track results don't really show any gains. The lower et's are directly related to lower 60 ft times on those runs. . . .
For the 1,134th time, ETs are a poor measure of HP -- for exactly the reason you mentioned.

If you are using a drag run to measure HP - it's TRAP SPEED that counts. Trap speed is the absolute best way to measure power as delivered to the tires.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 04:06 PM
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no ****

no **** sherlock
For the 1,134th time, ETs are a poor measure of HP -- for exactly the reason you mentioned.
That's why I posted that.

I would want alot better documentation that it's doing more for all of that.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by RED 92
...that chiller dose make significant HP (as I have seen first hand)...
Sorry Todd, but I can't miss a chance to poke fun at Clay and his magic numbers...

Clay, what significant horsepower? He only gained fifty four hundredths in his trap speed. And, as stated above, his elapsed times went down due to sixty foot times.

BTW, the car runs great bro!

--Steele
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 07:17 PM
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Ohh man you guys are killin me! Took the wind right out of my sails. I thought I was doing all the good. Geesh I still have a lot to learn.
 

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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by Txoutlaw
Ohh man you guys are killin me! Took the wind right out of my sails. I thought I was doing all the good. Geesh I still have a lot to learn.
Don't worry they are all a bunch of cry babbies

Anything you can do to lower intake temps has to help, especially since you live in a hot part of the country.

I do agree with Tallimeca and Tim, ET's aren't allways the best measure of HP. In my case redoing my suspension and lowering my HP, got me better ET's.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 07:54 PM
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Tim

My last post was me agreeing with your statement. I just re-read it and noticed you may take it the wrong way. No harm no fowl. Hehe.

Dyno's are a great tool, but the proof is in the pudding. I know of a ton of truck that my truck will out-dyno with mod for mod comparison. Guess who's truck is probably one of the slowest..........yup......me
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:07 PM
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Re: Tim

Originally posted by tallimeca
Guess who's truck is probably one of the slowest..........yup......me
It is not the truck, it is the driver
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by skennett
Sorry Todd, but I can't miss a chance to poke fun at Clay and his magic numbers...

Clay, what significant horsepower? He only gained fifty four hundredths in his trap speed. And, as stated above, his elapsed times went down due to sixty foot times.

BTW, the car runs great bro!

--Steele
Steele, what did I tell you about arguing with ....."Im always right "......
 

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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by wydopnthrtl
A chassie dyno really can't be used to measure small differances. An engine dyno would be much more accurate as to what's going on.

If you have a 50F drop in intake temps and the blower is pushing the air pretty good (4#+ lower) then it's definately getting a denser charge.

Rich
Why is that ?

If he is making 50 HP more, wouldn't that be 10% or more ?

Why wouldn't you see that on a chassis dyno ?

No flame, just curious...
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by tallimeca
My last post was me agreeing with your statement. I just re-read it and noticed you may take it the wrong way. No harm no fowl. Hehe. . . .
And upon re-reading my post, I failed to make it clear that I was agreeing with you. Despite my terrible sentence structure, the "1,134th time" was not directed at you.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 03:03 AM
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I think the ICEE chiller will show better results with those running the big pullies. With the stock pulley or 2lb pulley your still in the eatons efficient range. The chiller is going to make a bigger difference with they 6,8,10lb pullies because it will be able to bring the eaton back into its efficient range. I think he should dyno with a 8lber with chiller on and off and see if there is a worth while gain. Otherwise it may not be worth the trouble.
 
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