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I understand if you don't want to let the cat out of the bag, however:

Have a few questions about the above picture.

I understand the use of the pro-charger monster.

But the stock Eaton? I'm assumming it has been gutted (since leaving the rotors in there will do NOTHING. What did you do with the bypass valve on the bottom of it? Weld it shut? You already have a huge blow off valve.

Why did you leave the Stock intake on there, instead of capping off the top of the Eaton?


depending where you put the nitrous, wouldn't it puddle inthe stock intake?

Why put the throttle body on the front of the eaton?

Ever think of putting a Small innercooler INSIDE the Eaton, to pull some more heat out of the air?
(I know you have that huge heat exchanger down in front)

I'm curious to know why you did that. Not bashing. I'm sure there is some reason.

 

there would be no reason to weld it shut, it's probably not there anymore at all. the bypass allows compressed air to move from below the eaton's rotors back to above. the rotors aren't there anymore, so the stock bypass is useless.

I think originally he had other plans for the upper intake to be used for the bypass, a trick idea, but won't work due to location in relation to the throttle body.

what nitrous?

because the factory intake is pointed in the wrong direction for easy tubing to and from the intercooler maybe? just a guess. better flow than through the upper intake? again, just guessing.

it looks to me as though the stock intercooler is still in place in the lower intake. maybe to be used in stock form, maybe with an ice cooler?

later,
chris

 

Chris covered most of it. I do agree the setup would look much nicer with the upper gone. However, I designed this setup so that we can market the Procharger kit. So to help keep costs down, I came up with the idea of using the empty Eaton case as the intake, so we wouldn't need a $1000 custom intake. The upper is retained so that all the factory lines, IAC, and EGR will bolt up as originally intended. If we ditched the upper, you'd have do something with all the vaccum lines, IAC and EGR. I didn't want to add that expense into what will be an already pricey kit. The factory bypass is there, I simply bolted an "L" bracket above it to hold it shut. The factory I/C is still in the intake, I will be using it as a secondary ice chiller, like the Mustang guys do with the Vortech Power Coolers.

I think that covers it .

 

HONESTLY THAT IS SIMPLY BRILLIANT!

Finally another major tuner that designs a kit for extreme performance AND takes steps to keep the cost down!

 

What about a cheap sheetmetal upper like the one ATI uses on their Cobra setup?

 

Sal, have you had the truck running with this setup yet. Just wondering how streetable it's going to be....with the aic and egr up and above the throttle body. Is there going to be any flow issue triggering codes???

Have you given any though to having a custom intake designed for the people that will want to pay the extra???

Anyhow, can't wait to see who this comes out. Obviously there are already csc's on lightnings, but not one that big.

 

mine is comparible in size(1750cfm compared to the f1r's 2000cfm capability). and believe me its not as easy to just throw a cent. blower on and go. i cant wait to see how sal's truck runs. if we weren't having a baby in the next month we would be further along on our project as well. the thing i see in sal's setup that has me wondering is wont there be alot of turbulance created with the plenum being there. and another is if the blower case is left stock then your trying to push all that air outta the litle triangle opening. now if it were cut completly out were the airflow has complet access to the entire intercooler than i suppose it will work alittle better.

i cant wait til i get a built block into my truck.

 

It's a got dam work of art I tell you
I was afraid to go near it with the camera, hehehe
but Sal was like go ahead shoot away.
When you see this Beast in person, you truly see AND APPRECIATE how much thought goes into such a project, (never mind all the custom design work, R+D, installation, etc..)

I love the idea of utilizing the most out of the factory equiptment.
Anyone can trash the top 1/2 of our Motor and have someone else design a custom built Upper. But by utilizing what you already have, and finding ways to use what no longer needs to be used, and make it all work together, in one kick a$$ looking system is just as cutting edge as you can get.

I LOVE IT SAL, amazing workmanship is going into each piece involved, I can't wait to see you Test + Tune that MONSTER

 

i really hope your not putting me down for having someone else build me a custom intake. ask anyone i'm not one to pay for others to do work on my truck. if i had access to a machine shop i would have done all this myself but with working 7 days a week and trying to spend time with the family i decided to let someone else work through all the little stuff so i could enjoy actually driving the truck. i will bet the price of Sal's setup will be compariable to what i paid for all the custom work.

 

I don't THINK that Rob was trying to take a swipe you at all.

I THINK he was just saying that it's cool that Sal is being creative and at the same time trying to keep the costs down by using some existing parts.

your setup looks VERY clean! impressive

later,
chris

 

Sal have you looked at using a Reichard Racing Intake or even one from modular Performance?

 

NOT AT ALL BRO, NOT AT ALL

Sorry I guess after saying that, and now realizing you had just
posted a picture of your set up, it could be taken that way. NO NOT AT ALL

What I meant was a Tuner could take the path of having SOMEONE ELSE build a custom upper and easily develop a
sell-able kit to us the Customers. But Sal on the other hand,
decided to utilize the factory equiptment and keep the cost
down so someday he can offer a kit, that hopefully will still be
within reason "price wise". I myself said in my orig post yesterday, the top 1/2 can actually be removed "if" Sal decided to have a custom Upper made instead.

RDY2RAC, I've been praising your set up since you first started posting about it

your engine compartment is simply Beautiful. That Custom Upper and Air Piping you have can only be described as
Absolutely Perfect

What Sal's doing is trying to develop a sell-able kit using himself as the test subject, and by trying to utilize as much as possible
of what we have, so the installation can be very predicable for
each and every L.

MAKE NO MISTAKES, YOU HAVE A ONE OF A KIND, AND I LOVE IT

 

Ayrton, I originally was going to make myself a sheet metal replacement for the Eaton. But since I want to make a marketable kit, I felt using the empty Eaton was a good way to keep costs down. The case I'm using is actually an Apten ported one, so it should flow more than a regular Eaton case. I realize that it may not be the most optimum intake setup for max power, but I also don't want to run something that won't be offered to my customers. This whole setup is new, so we'll just have to see how it does and work out the bugs.

 

i guess i did get a little confused there.

no love lost.

but honestly i think a custom/different intake is the best road to take. my setup was designed to allow full use of the intercooler surfaces. next time you have your blower off look at it and you can actually see where the air is coming outta the blower especially if its prone to passing oil through it. the air is really only using about a 1/4 of the intercooler core when your really moving the air through it. we have huge amounts of room under the hood so thats why mine is setup the way it is. we left the flexibility to add a air to air intercooler or a external water to air cooler.

 

IMO, I dont think sal is guna Have any problems getting the power threw the Eaton shell....... But the Reichard Racing Intake is moulth watering..