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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 06:06 AM
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horrible ET times please help

ok me and a buddy of mine (01fordlightning) went to the track in temple and it was 85 degrees don't know about humity but it was freakin hot and i have a stock 2000 and my best time was a 14.8 at 93 mph 60ft was a 2.2 there were other lightnings out there 2 2003 L and they both ran a 14.1 i know its cuz of the wreather. should i be running faster then that? my buddy has a 01 L he has 4 pounder, chip, filter, headers, shift kit and on 20's rims and his best time friday was a 13.5. so what ya'll think somthing wrong with my truck? o by the way i still don't have a s/c whine could it be cuz of my flowmaster? any suggestions would be very welcome thanks in advance.........chris
 

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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 06:46 AM
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It's the heat and track prep and your poor 60ft times. You need to practice.

By the way the track at Temple is not all that wonderful.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 07:59 AM
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Re: horrible ET times please help

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i still don't have a s/c whine could it be cuz of my flowmaster? any suggestions would be very welcome thanks in advance.........chris
I don't know what the hell thats about ???
But if there's one thing you hear when my L comes down the street, IT'S THE WHINE BABY........

HEAT KILLS ET.
On a hot day like that you'll leave a good 1/2 a sec on the table. And with a 60ft @ 2.2 you honestly will never run a good ET.
Get that down in the 1's and go back on a cooler day, and you'll take a second right off that ET of yours

Talk to us about the Whine, what do you mean no whine ?
What boost are you showing on the guage ?
R-U still running the factory air box and stock filter ?
Maybe you just not hearing it over the exhuast as you mentioned.
Of course open filters and pulleys and ported Eatons add MAJOR whine, so if your 100% stock there, then I guess a loud exhuast might drown a lot of the whine out. But I don't think anything could drown mine out, IT DONT WHINE, IT SCREAMS.......
 
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 08:01 AM
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i know the track kinda sucks. i don't know how to lower my 60ft time. i have the nitto's 555 and i can't tell if i spin my tires or not some times i can cuz i can hear it but other times its totally quiet.but do you think my time should be where it is or should it be doing better? yes i new at the drag racing too i only draged 2 times ever so i will have to pratice i just want to make sure that my truck is running good before i put a lot of mods on.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 08:07 AM
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i run 10 pounds of boost i forgot to mention i do have a 2 lb upper and stock air box but i should be able to hear somthing it just sounds like air i was thinking that im not getting any back pressure some body told me if i don't get back pressure i won't have a whine like i said i run a flowmaster but i don't think thats the problem what about oil in the s/c i never checked it could it be that? and i want to get that ,im not sure what its called but it keeps the oil out of the s/c how much does that cost and like i asked before could that be the problem i hate it i can hear everybody elses truck whine like crazy but mine don't i have people ask me if its fake and i hate that need to fix it. thanks for the replys so far any more ideas i would love to hear. im clueless so anybody elses iteas will be better then mine
 
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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Na, oil in the S/C isn't the problem
But what you want is a oil seperator, or a PCV Fix
I had the seperator but found having to empty oil out if it
is a royal pain in the butt, now I use this
http://lightning-enterprise.com/pcv.html
Works amazing, you can't see it, and it takes minutes to install
AND IS TOTALLY MAINTENANCE FREE

I do know people talk about losing boost when they add Long Tube Headers, but I've never heard of loosing the Whine ??? WTF
Not too may people run Flowmasters on a L, you may want to start a post asking "Who's using Flowmasters" and ask if they have a simular problem.

BUT YOU SAY YOU SEE 10LBS of Boost ?
Boost with no Whine, God I would hate that, hope someone pops in with an answer for you Bro ???
 
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 10:17 AM
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Maybe there's another member on the board in your area, who could help you out? Hopefully someone will chime in... Bunch of great guys on here, I'm sure if there's one close by, you guys can work something out. Would be best to have an experienced and mechanically proficient L owner look over your truck and see what the deal is.


Thomas
 
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 05:53 PM
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You menioned the other trucks that were there. No one ran good. If the guy with the 4# ran 13.5 that's your answer. Bad track prep. heat etc. You can't expct to run good when no one else can. I know, I have been there. I go to Sacramento Cal. and run 12.3, and the next week at my home strip I am lucky yo run 12.7 or 12.8. like last night. By the way, ther was an 05 Dodge Super Bee HEMI running high 15's HA! HA!. It can drive you crazy, but don't blame the truck.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 06:09 PM
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1- Little River
2- It's in the 90s and Humid as hell
3- Flowmaster(s)

Sometime between now and late Oct get the Flowmaster(s) removed and weld up a Magnaflow 12468 muffler or opt. for a whole new catback. (This will give you back some of the needed backpressure and get rid of the Flow....whoosh sound).

Reason I say late October is the temps will be cooling down around here and (unless you bracket racing, or competing) racing in the summer is a waste if your shooting to get your best runs in. Also maybe make your way over the HRP in Baytown or SAR between Seguin & San Antonio, much nicer facilities!

went 13.04 w/2lb, muff, filter & chip in Jan. 02
went 13.45 w/4lb, fan kit and above in May 02
went 12.29 w/t-bars, t-body & above in Jan. 03

Heat & Humidity kills your ET with these trucks!
 
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 06:35 PM
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Hello

Macracer,

I think you are the one I spoke to lastnight. my name is Rich and I just sold my mustang for the silver01. I ran 14.1 and a 14.2 stock, so I kinda know what you mean. Talk to you soon.




Rich
 
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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yeah i think you were .you just got that truck right? but yeah so i guess ill try the magnaflow and wait till it cools down but i still should have a whine just can't understand that thanks for all the help guys if anymore info comes up it is great welcome......chris
 
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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Check your de-gassing tank for your intercooler and make sure you see some bubbling action going on. I agree with Don and TXSVTLIGHTNING as well. If a guy ran 13.5 with a 4# it's time to find another track. Heat does kill our trucks but even when my intercooler wasn't working I ran 15.01 at San Antonio Raceway in the heat with high humidity...so it definitely sounds like something is not right. Keep us posted and good luck.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 11:33 PM
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i did have a big problem with my intercooler i posted a while back about it and i finally got it fixed so its not the intercooler im just hoping its poor prep,bad 60ft and bad wreather. i just hope its not the truck but i do know its not whine so i have a problem there im thinking about buying a chip and taking it to get it dyno tuned do you think that will help and solve my whine problem or any other problem that it could be?
 
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 01:47 AM
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Originally posted by macracer18
i did have a big problem with my intercooler i posted a while back about it and i finally got it fixed so its not the intercooler im just hoping its poor prep,bad 60ft and bad wreather. i just hope its not the truck but i do know its not whine so i have a problem there im thinking about buying a chip and taking it to get it dyno tuned do you think that will help and solve my whine problem or any other problem that it could be?
I'm no expert by any means but I do have a couple of suggestions. First thing I would do is remove the bottom half of the air box...get a couple of long tie straps and strap your filter in real snug. Take your beast out and do a couple of WOT runs and see if you hear blower whine (with the bottom half of the box removed it should be very obvious). If you still don't hear blower whine then maybe it's a problem with the blower or belt slippage....it could be a number or combination of things. Are you making a true 10#s of boost? You may want to check that as well to see what you are really pushing. Maybe it is the Flowmaster it's really hard to say.

Before you start spending money on exhaust or other goodies trying to correct the problem....determine if you really have a problem. I would get it to a Dyno ASAP. You need to see what kind of numbers your L is laying down plus it will give you an oppurtunity to see what your AF ratio is as well. If the numbers are relatively close to the norm then I would think your motor and blower are fine. To give you something to compare to: My truck dynoed at 350 rwhp/404 rwtq, my mods were a PSP FastAir and a FTVB. It was in the high 80's and the Humidity was high. You have a 2# pulley so I would think your numbers would be equal to but more than likely a little better than my numbers. If your not even close then it's time to start being concerned.

Last but not least I see you live in Houston. If your knowledge about the L is about as broad as mine then maybe this should be your first step.....Join HALO!!! That club is huge and there are a lot of good knowledgable folks that would be more than happy to help you....I guarantee it! Plus they have access to fully equipped shops and Dynos.

They don't frequent the HALO section on the NLOC board as much as they used to because they have their own website and message board. Here is the link:

http://www.haloclub.com/

Go to technical question/comments section of their message forum and ask away. As I mentioned earlier, someone will be willing to take a look at your L for you. Make sure you keep us posted on your progress and best of luck.
 

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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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i wanted to get in that club but i live in waco now just moved to go to tstc but i guess ill just have to wait till it cools down and go to a better track maybe in dallas and see what i run thanks guys for all the help
 
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