Thinking of getting a e-fan and was thinking of getting a electric water pump to. My truck is my daily driver and was wondering if I mite have any problems? Are they reliable for a daily driver in the summer time? Those of you who have one also drive your truck daily?

What do you guys think?

 

hmmmm
Wasn't there a post recently about that? Trying to remember. Something about the wires or contacts or something.
Dog gone it.

They were talking about taking power straight from the battery or going through a relay and it got hot and melted.

I was going to suggest then that they just use a starting relay if it draws that many amps.

Shoot we got a clutch fan.... and 10 more ponies aint going to pin your ears back.

All that extra electrical load has to come from somewhere. Your going to be working the battery harder and for sure the Alternator is going to have to work harder to charge it back up. From what I have read these Basturd Alternators or not cheap and of course if its for a limited production it is going to be triple the price.

Personaly I am going to keep that part stock. I don't even think you need a radiator fan at anything over 40MPH. Might be ok to cool the intercooler at the track though.

Whish I could remember that post. It was in the last couple weeks I think.
Good Luck

 

I had one and it was bad from the factory or something. It leaked from day one - but I never realized it. I traded in my truck a month or so after it was installed and my salesperson told me they had to replace it before they could sell it.

Not sure about anyone else, though...

 

So electric pumps draw lots of juice huh? Don't superfords have one on his?

 

Going for about 2 years...Had to send it back late last year for them to check out the pulley...They (Meziere) did the pulley upgrade and did not charge a penny...Good people. Has been flawless...

 

yes I do.

here's the scoop from what I know.

first of all, I'm 100% satisified with my Meziere water pump.

I have spoken to the folks at Meziere over the phone and am 100% satisfied with their customer service.

I bought my pump from Sal @ PSP. My truck is daily driven, the pump was on my old motor, and was swapped over to the new motor. I have had no problems whatsoever, I currently have around 17,000 miles on the odometer.

HOWEVER recently, to my surprise, I read a post over on NLOC that several members had PULLEY failures on their pumps. If I remember correctly, I believe that Don's Bolt is one of those folks.

as stated I called Meziere to get the low down.

apparently, there was a problem where the aluminum pulley would wear or the retaining clip or bearing assembly or something would fail and cause the idler pulley to come off.

I believe that this pic belongs to Don:


I can understand why if this happened to me, I'd be very upset and not have much faith in using the product again.

But according to Meziere this failure has happened on a VERY small number of units.

Meziere has had TWO updates on the pump. Update 1 was a redesign of the pulley or retaining mechanism to prevent this pulley failure and can be identified visually by looking at the front of the pulley, you'll see a steel ring through the teardrop shaped holes. this retaining ring is part of the updated design. update 2 was additive of a different coating to the exterior of the pulley. supposedly gives the pulley are harder surface and can be identified by a greenish tint to the idler pulley.

my pulley is not green, but I do have the steel ring.

as for the usefulness of the product. I love it. as I said, I have had no problems with the unit whatsoever. my lightning is not only street driven, but it's the only vehicle I own, so it sees DAILY use. I don't know how much if any HP is to be gained by installing the electric water pump, IMHO, if you purchase it for that reason alone, you may be pissing your money away. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it frees up a few HP, but in my opinion that's certainly not the best feature of the pump.

I bought the e-pump because in conjunction with my JDM e-fan, I can cool the truck down completely between runs at the track in 5-10 minutes tops.

everybody knows our trucks run best when cool. Living here in the Hot and Humid South, I used to hate going to the track and making a run and then having to wait 2 hours to cool down in order to make another decent run. now with the addition of the e-pump, I can simply park the truck and pump continues to circulate coolant while the e-fan cools things down. I get the MOST for my MONEY so to speak when I go to the track. I can get more QUALITY runs in a shorter amount of time.

the only drawbacks that I can see: as the engine temps drop, the thermostat closes, the coolant stops being circulated through the radiator, so the e-fan and e-pump are just running and draining the battery. so in addition to running the fan, I turn the heat on and run the blower fan on high.

again, using this method you can drop engine temps by more than 100 degrees in a matter of 5-10 minutes depending on weather conditions. the only issue I have found is that if you don't use a jump box or a external charger or generator, the combination of running the e-fan, e-pump, blower motor, (not to mention now a nitrous bottle heater) can kill your battery in short order.

anyway, sorry for the long reply.

call meziere for more info, they will update any older style e-pump to the latest and final version at no charge. you just have to ship it to them. and wait a week or so.

here is a link to the thread over on nloc:
http://www.nloc.net/forum/showthread...threadid=48523

later,
chris

P.S. here's a picture of my water pump, you can see the steel retaining ring update peaking behind the teardrop shaped openings:

 

hehe ya that was my water pump, it failed in the midlle of East BumF*ck Pa. Lucky for me Fomocofan was following me and we were able to put my truck on his trailer. The one that failed was the origional design. I now have the updated pump, and have had many miles of trouble free use out of the new one.

I feel unless you have a built motor, and want to go real fast, save that money for other mods. It is a quality product, but isn't for everyone.

 

Drill some holes in the thermostat so water can cirulate after the thermostat closes

 

Hey superfords, thanks for the help. My truck is like yours, its my only vehicle, thats way Im asking about the pump. I know it may free up a few hp, but I was thinking of getting it(along with the e-fan) so I can get as much drag off the engine as possible. Not only to improve engine life but to help my gas mileage some(if possible). Gas is killing me now and selling the truck has crossed my mined a few times. But I don't want to. I get around 250 miles to a tank, my best was 300 and I was really babying it. I figure if I get the e-fan, water pump, and a reburn chip I can get another 50 or so miles to a tank.

Please, nobody flame me for this but gas prices are really hurting my wallet. I can't get a beater because I still owe 20K on the truck. And don't get me started on my credit cards, Im getting a$$ raped my the damned mod bug.

 

just fyi, milage mods normally have a return rate of at least 2 years.

 

huh???

 

The money you use buying the mod... It takes roughly two years to get that money back in money saved at the fuel pump through better gas mileage.

 

thank you,
yes its normally AT LEAST 2 years, with prices higher these days it might be a little less i havent done any math on it lately, but with gas at 1.50 (remember 6 month ago ) using a e fan and gaining 1 mpg and running 12k miles a year i think it took 3 years to get money back, thats IF you actually gained a solid mpg.

 

So I'm over here in Hawaii dealing with huge heat and humidity problems... Think the efan/waterpump would be a good investment? I'm thinking I'll buy those, a heat exchanger and transmission cooler, 160 degree thermostat... And I should have my bases covered. Anyone have a comment about that?

Also...is the only way to run those without draining the battery in a matter of minutes with an external charger or getting jumped? That'd be kind've a pain... Is there a better/longer-lasting battery I could purchase that would make running those while in the pits between runs a little more feasible, without killing it?

Was planning on an interchiller as well, but I'm interested in what Afco is cooking up for JL... And it sounds like the interchiller is back-ordered.


Thomas

 

not sure but im guessing something similar to what rtkilla was running (dual battery setup under the bed) would run the efan and waterpump for quite a long time. But im guessing even the stock battery would run it for awhile. Chris should be able to comment on that.