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Yeah guy's V!0 is right, we live in a magazine world, so anytime anybody with more factory rated HP pulls next to you, you better not run 'em. 
Rediculas, this is me sayin' your still a tard, and havn't proven a damn thing because we've all read the articles. In the real world it's a different story, but that makes too much damn sense to wrap your mind around. So I'm walking away from the thread with my sanity now.
Rediculas, this is me sayin' your still a tard, and havn't proven a damn thing because we've all read the articles. In the real world it's a different story, but that makes too much damn sense to wrap your mind around. So I'm walking away from the thread with my sanity now.
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Guys, he can't help it. He's a Dodge guy who just spent all that money on a V10 and he knows it wont run with an L. Thats why he is on here bragging and not at the track. He probably will never run against a L because of the utter embarassment it would cause him, in most cases anyway.
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This is my beater car and it is a Dodge, and you know what? This 87 Dodge can OUT TOW the stupid freaking Dodge SRT-10....
Cost $350.00 ain't that some chit....
Below is one of the worlds fastest REAL production TRUCK'S, it can tow 5,000 lbs...
Cost $350.00 ain't that some chit....
Below is one of the worlds fastest REAL production TRUCK'S, it can tow 5,000 lbs...
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motor trend Vs. truck trend Vs. motorweek. (2 to 1 say 13.8)
motor trend this.
motor trend that.
motor trend burned its a$$ jumping over a candle stick
you know what I find INCREDIBLY ODD. is that Motor Trend and TRUCK TREND are basically the same dang magazine, same writers, same owners probably the same damn building.
This is what TRUCK TREND had to say about the srt-10 truck.
(not the bolded areas)
2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10
Price range $40,000-$45,000
Vehicle layout Front engine, RWD
Engine 8.3L/500-hp V-10, OHV,2 valves/cyl
0-60 mph, sec 5.2 (est)
1/4 mile, sec, mph 13.8 @ 106 (est)
On sale in U.S.
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ALSO, MOTORWEEK tested the SRT-10 and this is what they had to say: (again look to the bolded part)
http://www.pbs.org/mpt/motorweek/search.shtml
(search under recent road tests)
004 Dodge Ram SRT-10
Program #2331
The Dodge Ram is one big tough truck, and a real performer. It can tow, haul and jump stumps with the best of them. But for the folks at Dodge's Performance Vehicle Operations, that just wasn't enough. They wanted their Ram to do it all, and that means covering performance from every direction. And boy, does this SRT-10 have that covered!
Covered in tire smoke that is! The smoke produced when you punch the go pedal of the Viper powered 2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10, the most macho pickup in Detroit history. Wearing a look that's part NASCAR race truck, part Frankenstein's monster, the Ram SRT-10 is the ultimate hot-rod cargo hauler from the tuners at Dodge PVO. Styling cues include a super-deep, race-style front fascia, muscular power dome hood with cool air intake, lower rear fascia, and a cargo box mounted fixed rear wing that actually works, producing a 165-pound reduction in rear lift, and one that can be removed to allow loading of large objects.
All sits atop the Ram 1500 super-stiff hydroformed frame and rides on a heavily modified performance suspension that's 1 inch lower in the front and 2 inches lower in the rear than stock. For grip, huge 22-inch Viper-style alloy wheels wearing 215/40 series Pirelli Scorpion Zero tires. Tucked behind the wheels are racy red calipers which clamp down on huge 15-inch front discs and 14-inch rear discs.
But all that pales in comparison to what's under the hood. The Ram SRT-10 gets its motivation from the same massive 8.3-liter aluminum-block pushrod V-10 that we covet in the Dodge Viper, and the same 500 horsepower, with a locomotive 525 pound-feet of torque. That's 120 horses and 75 pound-feet more than a Ford Lightning. The V-10 fits very deep and clean in the engine bay, leaving plenty of room for the installation of the inevitable aftermarket supercharger.
Power slams to the rear wheels through the Viper's Tremec 6-speed gearbox, which is controlled by the appropriate, cool-looking Hurst shifter. Hammer the right pedal, and the SRT-10 rocks to 60 in only 5.3 seconds. The quarter mile melts under its tires in 13.8 seconds at 104 miles-per-hour. With so much power we were a bit surprised that this was just one tenth faster than our last Ford Lightning. But remember that the Ram weighs almost 500 pounds more.
The Hurst shifter moves are generally positive, but a notchy second-to-third shift on our well-exercised test truck put the kibosh on any serious speed shifting. Max torque is available at only 1,500 rpm, and at full throttle unleashes a seemingly endless rush of power all the way down the drag strip. Drive at less than full throttle on the street, as you should, and the engine feels a bit restricted. This may be at least partially due to the exhaust, which features no less than four catalytic converters and one of the biggest mufflers that we've ever seen.
The SRT-10 balances its power with a PVO tuned suspension that includes Bilstein shocks and stiffer springs. And while is won't beat a Viper in corners, it is a pretty sharp handling pickup. Turn-in is naturally a bit slow, but grip is impressive, and reactions are quite refined for any truck. The firm springs and stiffer lower-profile tires do make it a bit nervous over bumps, but the modified Ram Heavy Duty steering is precise with plenty of feedback for easy corrections. Unless, that is, you really mash the gas pedal. Then the awesome power produces an equal amount of oversteer. It is a pickup truck after all.
There is also a respectable amount of feel through the soft brake pedal, as the big ABS-equipped discs haul the SRT-10 down from 60 in a good 123 feet. Again things can get a bit jittery over rough surfaces, but braking is rock solid on our smooth test track. There's a fair bit of nose dive, but no shortage of braking power.
Street ride quality is much like that of the Ram's Viper cousin. It's not jarring, but you definitely feel every ripple in the road. But what really impressed us was how docile the SRT-10 was when it needed to be. Small throttle inputs are returned with just the right amount of power. It's actually easy to stay within the law in the SRT-10.
Inside, the SRT-10 is a welcoming, spacious Ram, with an extra dose of alloy and carbon look trim to spice things up, and a red starter button to bring this Viper brother to life. More spice for life comes from the 508-watt audio system, with a massive Infinity subwoofer that will turn your brain to mush even faster than a Viper V-10. There's also a new instrument cluster with silver-face gauges and big leather-clad bucket seats with plenty of back and side support.
All in all, it's a lot of truck, and it will set you back a lot of money, $45,795. But think about it. That's just over half the price of the Viper roadster, and you can still show this one off at Home Depot.
The Dodge Performance Vehicle Operations team have worked their magic well. Our time with the Ram SRT-10 convinced us that there's nothing this impressively versatile and surprisingly sophisticated full-size monster pickup can't do in style. Whether it's hauling freight or hauling Ðwell, you know Ðthe 2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10 has all the performance bases, not only covered, they're smothered!
IT IS INTERESTING HOW YOU HAVE HAVE 2 MAGAINZES SAYING IT RUNS A 13.8
even the truck trends which branched off of motor trend.
so I think your motortrend argument has NO credibility.
stick that in your tailpipe and
srt-10 runs a 13.8 stock.... unless Dodge sends over a massaged one for testing.
Case CLosed
motor trend that.
motor trend burned its a$$ jumping over a candle stick
you know what I find INCREDIBLY ODD. is that Motor Trend and TRUCK TREND are basically the same dang magazine, same writers, same owners probably the same damn building.
This is what TRUCK TREND had to say about the srt-10 truck.
(not the bolded areas)
2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10
Price range $40,000-$45,000
Vehicle layout Front engine, RWD
Engine 8.3L/500-hp V-10, OHV,2 valves/cyl
0-60 mph, sec 5.2 (est)
1/4 mile, sec, mph 13.8 @ 106 (est)
On sale in U.S.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ALSO, MOTORWEEK tested the SRT-10 and this is what they had to say: (again look to the bolded part)
http://www.pbs.org/mpt/motorweek/search.shtml
(search under recent road tests)
004 Dodge Ram SRT-10
Program #2331
The Dodge Ram is one big tough truck, and a real performer. It can tow, haul and jump stumps with the best of them. But for the folks at Dodge's Performance Vehicle Operations, that just wasn't enough. They wanted their Ram to do it all, and that means covering performance from every direction. And boy, does this SRT-10 have that covered!
Covered in tire smoke that is! The smoke produced when you punch the go pedal of the Viper powered 2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10, the most macho pickup in Detroit history. Wearing a look that's part NASCAR race truck, part Frankenstein's monster, the Ram SRT-10 is the ultimate hot-rod cargo hauler from the tuners at Dodge PVO. Styling cues include a super-deep, race-style front fascia, muscular power dome hood with cool air intake, lower rear fascia, and a cargo box mounted fixed rear wing that actually works, producing a 165-pound reduction in rear lift, and one that can be removed to allow loading of large objects.
All sits atop the Ram 1500 super-stiff hydroformed frame and rides on a heavily modified performance suspension that's 1 inch lower in the front and 2 inches lower in the rear than stock. For grip, huge 22-inch Viper-style alloy wheels wearing 215/40 series Pirelli Scorpion Zero tires. Tucked behind the wheels are racy red calipers which clamp down on huge 15-inch front discs and 14-inch rear discs.
But all that pales in comparison to what's under the hood. The Ram SRT-10 gets its motivation from the same massive 8.3-liter aluminum-block pushrod V-10 that we covet in the Dodge Viper, and the same 500 horsepower, with a locomotive 525 pound-feet of torque. That's 120 horses and 75 pound-feet more than a Ford Lightning. The V-10 fits very deep and clean in the engine bay, leaving plenty of room for the installation of the inevitable aftermarket supercharger.
Power slams to the rear wheels through the Viper's Tremec 6-speed gearbox, which is controlled by the appropriate, cool-looking Hurst shifter. Hammer the right pedal, and the SRT-10 rocks to 60 in only 5.3 seconds. The quarter mile melts under its tires in 13.8 seconds at 104 miles-per-hour. With so much power we were a bit surprised that this was just one tenth faster than our last Ford Lightning. But remember that the Ram weighs almost 500 pounds more.
The Hurst shifter moves are generally positive, but a notchy second-to-third shift on our well-exercised test truck put the kibosh on any serious speed shifting. Max torque is available at only 1,500 rpm, and at full throttle unleashes a seemingly endless rush of power all the way down the drag strip. Drive at less than full throttle on the street, as you should, and the engine feels a bit restricted. This may be at least partially due to the exhaust, which features no less than four catalytic converters and one of the biggest mufflers that we've ever seen.
The SRT-10 balances its power with a PVO tuned suspension that includes Bilstein shocks and stiffer springs. And while is won't beat a Viper in corners, it is a pretty sharp handling pickup. Turn-in is naturally a bit slow, but grip is impressive, and reactions are quite refined for any truck. The firm springs and stiffer lower-profile tires do make it a bit nervous over bumps, but the modified Ram Heavy Duty steering is precise with plenty of feedback for easy corrections. Unless, that is, you really mash the gas pedal. Then the awesome power produces an equal amount of oversteer. It is a pickup truck after all.
There is also a respectable amount of feel through the soft brake pedal, as the big ABS-equipped discs haul the SRT-10 down from 60 in a good 123 feet. Again things can get a bit jittery over rough surfaces, but braking is rock solid on our smooth test track. There's a fair bit of nose dive, but no shortage of braking power.
Street ride quality is much like that of the Ram's Viper cousin. It's not jarring, but you definitely feel every ripple in the road. But what really impressed us was how docile the SRT-10 was when it needed to be. Small throttle inputs are returned with just the right amount of power. It's actually easy to stay within the law in the SRT-10.
Inside, the SRT-10 is a welcoming, spacious Ram, with an extra dose of alloy and carbon look trim to spice things up, and a red starter button to bring this Viper brother to life. More spice for life comes from the 508-watt audio system, with a massive Infinity subwoofer that will turn your brain to mush even faster than a Viper V-10. There's also a new instrument cluster with silver-face gauges and big leather-clad bucket seats with plenty of back and side support.
All in all, it's a lot of truck, and it will set you back a lot of money, $45,795. But think about it. That's just over half the price of the Viper roadster, and you can still show this one off at Home Depot.
The Dodge Performance Vehicle Operations team have worked their magic well. Our time with the Ram SRT-10 convinced us that there's nothing this impressively versatile and surprisingly sophisticated full-size monster pickup can't do in style. Whether it's hauling freight or hauling Ðwell, you know Ðthe 2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10 has all the performance bases, not only covered, they're smothered!
IT IS INTERESTING HOW YOU HAVE HAVE 2 MAGAINZES SAYING IT RUNS A 13.8
even the truck trends which branched off of motor trend.
so I think your motortrend argument has NO credibility.
stick that in your tailpipe and
srt-10 runs a 13.8 stock.... unless Dodge sends over a massaged one for testing.
Case CLosed
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Re: Bottom Line
[QUOTE]Originally posted by V!0
I love lightnings, they are awesome trucks, but most L owners are ****y and need to know these facts.
As far as perfromance trucks dodge has ya'll beat. SRT-10; fastest production truck in the world...period, a little over 154 mph. Motor trend got a 13.1@107.07 and for you guys who say that its not a truck... they put 650 pounds in the bed and still pulled a 13.68@102.69 that will match (if not beat theL's 1/4 mile). So i can put 650 pounds of cargo in my SRT-10's bed and still match your 1/4 mile time and you say it's not a real truck, you are dead wrong, that is what trucks do, they haul things in the bed. As you see in the link motor trend got a 13.7 second 1/4 mile time out of the 03 L. We all know that there are L's out there that can do better than this, so why do you people refuse to believe the 13.1 they got out of 500hp SRT-10. I know you will say I am a magazine racer. How can you say they are lying, if you truly believe this you can sue them for false advertising, do you think their 1/4 mile track is shorter than yours?
the first paragraph is facts and there is no arguemnt against these facts. end of story
You have posted some irrelavant facts....and I 'm positive you don't own a SRT-10, because anyone with the 46K to 56K required to buy this vehicle that is ( magazine tested on different days to be 7 miles per hour faster than a Lightning) would not be wasting thier time with irrelavant facts about a Dodge on a Lightning forum.
Fact is you dont own a SRT-10 and you are mad that in the real world the Lightning is beating the SRT-10 for 20K less.
SRT-10 owners spent 20k for 7 mph that they will never use......how bout that fact.
I love lightnings, they are awesome trucks, but most L owners are ****y and need to know these facts.
As far as perfromance trucks dodge has ya'll beat. SRT-10; fastest production truck in the world...period, a little over 154 mph. Motor trend got a 13.1@107.07 and for you guys who say that its not a truck... they put 650 pounds in the bed and still pulled a 13.68@102.69 that will match (if not beat theL's 1/4 mile). So i can put 650 pounds of cargo in my SRT-10's bed and still match your 1/4 mile time and you say it's not a real truck, you are dead wrong, that is what trucks do, they haul things in the bed. As you see in the link motor trend got a 13.7 second 1/4 mile time out of the 03 L. We all know that there are L's out there that can do better than this, so why do you people refuse to believe the 13.1 they got out of 500hp SRT-10. I know you will say I am a magazine racer. How can you say they are lying, if you truly believe this you can sue them for false advertising, do you think their 1/4 mile track is shorter than yours?
the first paragraph is facts and there is no arguemnt against these facts. end of story
You have posted some irrelavant facts....and I 'm positive you don't own a SRT-10, because anyone with the 46K to 56K required to buy this vehicle that is ( magazine tested on different days to be 7 miles per hour faster than a Lightning) would not be wasting thier time with irrelavant facts about a Dodge on a Lightning forum.
Fact is you dont own a SRT-10 and you are mad that in the real world the Lightning is beating the SRT-10 for 20K less.
SRT-10 owners spent 20k for 7 mph that they will never use......how bout that fact.
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Cowboy up V!0 and tell us where you are from. I think we'd all love the chance to meet you in person, share a beer and let you fill us with your wisdom and knowledge. You could break out all your magazine articles about the Hemi and Srt-10 and lecture us on how Dodge rules supreme. You can maybe tell us some stuff about our Lightnings that we don't even know that you have in one of your multi-stacks of magazines. Wouldn't that be great? Let us know V!0.
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V-10,
You keep claiming 13.10's for the stock SRT-10. There is a guy on your Dodge boards that's considered one of the best drivers around that can only run 13.30's and 13.40's with his and a couple of simple mods. Can't remember his name, has a 9 in it, I'm sure you know who he is. At any rate, he recently got the truck to run a 12.7 with a pro driver in it. Even he couldn't pull it off.
My point is, the SRT-10 has the potential to run high 12's with the perfect driver. Problem is they are so hard to launch it's almost never going to happen. The regular track guys are running 13.30's (best) to low 14's, mostly due to the 6 speed and how hard it is to launch. There have been many L's stock that ran 13.20's to 13.40's so I still put the advantage at the track to the L. It's just much easier to drag race unless you happen to be that one guy who could get one down the track. You aren't him are you?
Jody
You keep claiming 13.10's for the stock SRT-10. There is a guy on your Dodge boards that's considered one of the best drivers around that can only run 13.30's and 13.40's with his and a couple of simple mods. Can't remember his name, has a 9 in it, I'm sure you know who he is. At any rate, he recently got the truck to run a 12.7 with a pro driver in it. Even he couldn't pull it off.
My point is, the SRT-10 has the potential to run high 12's with the perfect driver. Problem is they are so hard to launch it's almost never going to happen. The regular track guys are running 13.30's (best) to low 14's, mostly due to the 6 speed and how hard it is to launch. There have been many L's stock that ran 13.20's to 13.40's so I still put the advantage at the track to the L. It's just much easier to drag race unless you happen to be that one guy who could get one down the track. You aren't him are you?
Jody
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I bet that V!0 kids room is lined with pictures of dodge trucks & he has stacks upon stacks of magazines full of "facts".
&
He has never raced at the racetrack.
Don't get out much, do ya kid?
<--- still laughing at you!
&
He has never raced at the racetrack.
Don't get out much, do ya kid?
<--- still laughing at you!