Because that is NOT what you said in your original post.

You said;
"that Diablosport used for testing to create the "performance tune" and "pulley tune" ......

That is a far cry from saying that what blew up this truck is their current standard tune. Make up your mind.

 

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Ok, someone explain to me how this thread is "gay" #3 could work, but this thread is far from bright (especially some of the posters in it).

 

I vote for number 5

 

A dyno is a good tool, but it is only part of the puzzle in developing a good tune for a vehical.

Here is a example
Last year we made some changes on my truck, new injectors, new mass air and then we put it on the dyno and tuned it. While it was on the dyno it ran great and the timing and AF numbers were right where we wanted them. Then we took it on the street and data logged the truck, again everything looked good.

A few days later we took it to the track, to make sure the new program worked like we thought it was. So the tree goes green and a nail the throttle. It launches awesome, pulls hard through first, pulls hard through 2nd gear, and I am thinking awesome this tune kicks butt. Then it shifts into 3rd gear and just shuts off.

This just show that a dyno can not give you all the info all the time. There are variables, like extreem load that no dyno can recreate. So we took the info we learned at the track, made a few little changes and went through the testing again. Dyno, datalogging and track testing to get the final tune that I run today.

 

In saying ihs truck was used for testing to create the predator tune, that means diablosport used it to develop and adjust a tune, and then once that was complete, placed that tune in his truck, and in every predator that ships out.

Shawn, I can back up that dyno statement. I know the owner personally and he is a friend of mine, and i was informed of the progress before, during, and after the tuning and testing.

It was done on the superflow dyno at diablo's facility but like i said just because it was done on a dyno doesnt mean it's right.

If I helped at least once person by saving them from blowing a motor because of the factory tune in the predator, and they replace it with a better one, then this thread has served it's purpose. It sucks to be in a situation like my friend and if you can prevent someone else from having to do it, that's all that really matters.

 

Ok so in the 5 pages of this thread here is what I understand.

1) Gotta pay to play.

2) The owner perfers to keep this on the lowdown because SVT reads the boards and he is trying to pull a fast 1 over Ford.

Now to add my comments, JLP Chips Blow Trucks,Sal Chips Blow Trucks, JDM Chips blow trucks, Superchips blow trucks, DiabloChips blow trucks and Autologic Chips blow trucks, WTF is your point here ?

Nuff said

 

I still haven't heard of a single jerry tuned lightning blowing up. I know of 10 of them.

Has anyone heard of a lightning tuned by jerry blowing up?

 

MISTERgadget and Don,

I ask because I'm about to get rid of my flip chip and get a dyno tune. (safety being the biggest issue, I'll be spraying the funny stuff on a stock block) So is it safer for me to get an established tune, like Rob_02, or get it on a dyno?

 

Get a dyno tune from an established and reputable tuner whom you can trust 100%

 

If safety is the biggest issue you won't be spraying, and for sure it won't be on a stock block.

MISTERgadget, I dont think its a very fair comparision to say you know 10 of Jerrys tunes who havent blown up motors, when the other guys have tuned thousands. Ya know what? Not one of my tunes has ever blown up a motor on any vehicle I've ever tuned. Not a single one has blown up, ever!

This is stupid thread.

 

You are right that it may not be a fiar comparison, since the majority of lightning owners have chosen to use one of our supporting vendors.

May of those trucks who have blown up from JDM, PSP, JLP etc.... were becuase of user error, pulleying incorrectly for the tune, too much nitrous, no upgrading the fuel system etc...., so it is not fair to blame the tuner in those cases.

Just be careful what you buy and understand everything you are doing completely, because in the end, if a motor blows, it's your problem and your problem only.

 

Actually, I dont mean to slam Jerry in anyway but I do know a truck that was tuned back when he was with Ford Chip(Same Software as SCT) and it ran 21 degrees total timing and had a A/F ratio of close to 13:1 A/F. The owner melted plugs on several occasions and thought maybe it was bad fuel or a clogged fuel filter. The chip was sent back and Jerry redid it for the owner, Im sure it was only a matter of time before the above mentioned truck blew up had the owner not sent the chip back for a reburn. Jerry has tuned more than 10 Lightnings, Jerry has been tuning trucks way before SCT and your cheerleading only enforces what he said about Lightning owners. A major % of them have no clue what they are talking about. Jerry has tuned Mustangs, you know the other vehicles with Mod Motors and some have blown. Would you like to see dyno graphs or datalogs of the above truck I mentioned ?

 

gotta pay to play!!!!!!

 

Actually, fordchip used diablo revolution chips.

I would really like to see the dyno graphs of that truck. What kind of plugs was he running, pulley combo etc...?

Thanks!

 

The Chip has nothing to do with it, its the software that programs the information onto the chip. Paintshop Pro works the same way wheither your running a HP Computer or Dell Computer, I will post the dynograph later but prolly wont be until this evening.