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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 01:26 AM
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Built Motor questions

before i start, steele, clay, nathan....not a word from your mouths unless its in response to the question and meant in a nice manner......you all are always lurkin around waiting for me to slip up.....


ok, i know people want/get built motors. i know you can get the upper and lower done. i know it makes your truck damn fast. but what actually goes into making a built motor? im super interested in this(ran into some cash, figured screw investing it, i want a faster truck) i dont know jack about the specifics on built motors. what all goes into them, everyday reliablity, etc. etc. just some basic newbie questions....yall know what i dont know....help me out here..

also dont we have the tranny to worry about?
 
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 01:43 AM
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Her you go, this what I have...

Heads Port and polished with 1 mm over sized valves - flows more air to help your engine breath.

Block has been bored .03" over with...

Manley H beam Rod - to handle more Hp

CP Pistons with plasma moley rings one of the best pistons

ARP stud kit for heads and mains - to hold it all together

Line bored the block and rebalanced every thing

Magnum Powers Blower to add 26 lb of boost!

Last but not least Fel-pro head gasket!

I put 26 lb of boost to it last Labor day and lifted both heads.

Hope this helps. We have a few more goodies but you'll have to race me to find out!

Peace, Suavy
 
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 02:19 AM
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Originally posted by Suavy
We have a few more goodies but you'll have to race me to find out!

Peace, Suavy

lol you mean watch you disappear from what it sounds like.....
 
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 02:39 AM
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I assume rebuilding equates to pulling the engine out of the vehicle or could it be done without the engine being removed?
 
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 08:41 AM
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The engines we run are basicaly a production engine for general purpose.
The factory added the supercharger which significantily increased the overall power. When they did that the improved the crankshaft, connecting rod, and pistion material. In addition they added the intercooler.

Some of the guys here are going up to the next level to get even more power from that same base platform. If you do that and you want it to live for a while you have to go threw the engine and make sure everything is perfect and the balance and clearances are just right.

The Average full tilt NHRA open class dragsters have an average life of only three minutes. That's at full throttle. You can get a lot of runs when you consider they get down the track in less than 6 seconds.

I see no advantage or significant power gain by spending that kind of money for a daily driver and a few weekend trips to the track.

You can have a lot of fun bracket racing untill you find out if it is what you really enjoy and then start doing the more expensive mods. There are lots of bolt on upgrades but to really build it right you should remove the engine from the truck and do it right.

Building up the block lets it live and breath longer rather than be a time bomb.

Hope that answers some of you question.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 09:33 AM
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Re: Built Motor questions

Originally posted by DarkShadow03
before i start, steele, clay, nathan....not a word from your mouths unless its in response to the question and meant in a nice manner......

I hear ya. I for one am trying to be less of a d*ck and more positive in my responses.

Example: my positive replys to your 20" wheel thread.

I frankly am embarrassed how crass/rude/juvenile I have been regard replys i have made to your threads.
I let peer pressure get the best of me. Steel and Nathan have fostered my attitude and I didnt notice it until this moment.

Now Alan back to your question

A built motor takes on many meanings. It simply means torque strip was used during the build up process.

Check with Steele, he has some prices from Mike Murrilo.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 10:41 AM
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Man, I went through the trouble of trying to get you deals on everything from a predator to a full dyno tune with Mike Murillo. It is always the same story, I just got me some cash and I want to make my truck faster than Steele's. Then after I go through the trouble of trying to help you out you decide that you don't have the money any more.

You have a stock 2003 Lightning with what 6000 miles on the odo? Now you want a built motor? WTF? Why don't you just throw 1500 bucks in mods into her (reusable parts, parts that you will be able to use on a built motor later in life) and enjoy?

Sorry man, but you have to admit you are a daydreamer. One day it's 1,500 bucks in mods that you can't handle now it's a 12,000 mod motor project.

This was constructive right? heh

Ohh, and stop whining! I don't cry like a little baby when Clay picks on me.

Anyways, so you want to know what goes into a built motor? Here:

https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...hreadid=147206

You want to know why people do it? So they can add more power. Building the motor doesn't make the truck "damn fast" as you put it. It lets you add more power without blowing it up.

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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by skennett

It is always the same story, I just got me some cash and I want to make my truck faster than Steele's. Then after I go through the trouble of trying to help you out you decide that you don't have the money any more. Sorry man, but you have to admit you are a daydreamer. One day it's 1,500 bucks in mods that you can't handle now it's a 12,000 mod motor project.
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hey, it's like the hooters waitress. He sets his his sights high ... not his fault when he falls short of the bar. That's why they call him Optimistic Alan ...
 
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 02:43 PM
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hey, it's like the hooters waitress. He sets his his sights high ... not his fault when he falls short of the bar. That's why they call him Optimistic Alan ...
BAM!



LOL

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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by skennett
BAM!



LOL

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LMFAO!

In anycase, the main purpose of a built block isn't to provide more power. Overall you shouldn't really expect any extra hp. You may gain some from overal engine efficiency but it's doubtful. The main purpose is to basically bulletproof your engine so you can go higher with the horsepower. At a certain point the stock engine can't make anymore power without being dangerous, so you build. If your not there yet, i wouldn't worry about it.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 03:42 PM
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Thanks guys for the info on built motors....please keep it coming. I'm going to auto-zone to get some torque strip so I will be ready for my build up.

Alan









 
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 07:08 PM
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LMFAO!

In anycase, the main purpose of a built block isn't to provide more power. Overall you shouldn't really expect any extra hp. You may gain some from overal engine efficiency but it's doubtful. The main purpose is to basically bulletproof your engine so you can go higher with the horsepower. At a certain point the stock engine can't make anymore power without being dangerous, so you build. If your not there yet, i wouldn't worry about it.
thats what i was intersted i hearing about. i didnt know, thats why i asked. also i didnt know it was a 12k vs 1.5k type of deal, THATS WHY I ASKED. its gettin old guys. youd think after the things that happened to me, youd all be a little nicer. im starting to get pissed. you can stop now.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 09:06 PM
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I am going with a built motor in my daily driver. I race about 4-6 times a year and have not had any trouble. My truck makes a strong 450 hp on 91 pump gas and a KB blower.
On a recent trip to my dealer one of the techs showed me a truck like mine with one of the rods hanging out of the side of the engine. This guy was running a 6 pound lower and a chip on 91 pump gas. It made me think where would I be if I blew a spark plug out or a rod like this guy. I purchased a used motor and am building it up as I write this down. I figure with the price of the motor and out side labor I should be in it for about $4000.00 -$4500.00. I can then recover $1500.00-$2000.00 for my long block. At least that's the plan


If you plan to keep the truck for say 5-7 years, I would go for it just my 0.2.
 
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