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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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I bought new, because I like an extended warranty, so as much as Id LIKE to, no mods
 
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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BTW, stock vehicles blow to bits too
Yup, and I'll bet 100 percent of them get new motors @ no charge.

The kids first problem Chris is that he never did talk to you, his second problem was that he obviously beat the chit out of his truck.

As far as removing your mods to try to get warranty, hey its a game that Ford plays, so why not play along with them. You might get lucky or you might not. It will all wind up being buried in the price of the next Gen Lightning anyway.

AY 2004 FU
 
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 11:55 AM
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Was this the guy that was racing the STi?
 
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 12:08 PM
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Ford builds these trucks to have x amount of horsepower. They warranty them for the way they are built, not the way YOU want it to be. If you start changing the stock setup, it is no longer stock and therefore it's YOUR responsibility, not Ford's. Why ANYONE thinks Ford should have to pay for their tinkering is beyond me. If you've got the money for the mods, you better have the money for the repairs. If you don't, you're a moron. I put a supercharger on my 2 year old truck with a years worth of warranty left knowing if something went wrong, it was my problem. That's the problem with our society today. Noone wants to take responsibilty for themselves. Their always looking to point the finger at someone else.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 12:37 PM
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I would think that if the mod was to improve the performance of the vehicle that ford should have to pay to replace whatever brakes. I am not saying that if you mod it for racing for should be responsible, but there are mods out there for guys like me to improve gas mileage and shifting points. Now I ask my dealer if I put a chip in it to do this they said I would void my warranty. Now if these things exist then ford should be looking at including them so that us the consumer doesn’t have to look for them.

Now I believe the point of the story was that there is lighting bleeding at a dealership. And it is a sad thing to hear when they let go. . As for the kid well I can remember being stupid when I was younger.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 12:45 PM
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Re: sad/frustrating blown Lightning about to be voided story

Originally posted by superfords
from what I can gather from other guys in the shop, for some reason he felt like he was bothering me when he came to ask questions about his truck, so he just didn't ask and ordered some iffy mods at first.
Chris - you were obviously there to help him had asked. It sucks but some people have to learn the hard way.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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I'm sad that the truck blew up.
I'm sad that the kid didn't know better, or didn't listen.
I'm sad that the warranty is going to be voided.

However, only one person is responsible. Not Ford. Not Superfords. If I were in Superfords shoes, I would have tried to help a L buddy too, regardless of the facts, and If successful, I don't think either of us would have jeopardized it by broadcasting it on this well known site.

All the 'pay to play' statements are SO obvious that only a newbie or an azzhole would feel the need to state it.

In short, I think what we can all do here is sympathise for the inexperienced owner and for the wounded truck. Share a moment of saddness for the truck, and for the pain of a fellow L owner.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 02:41 PM
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Screw Ford! I am still raw from when they voided me back in '01 and as I said then, the best way to get back at them is to never buy another vehicle from them. I have had 4 new vehicles since then-none of them Ford products and I have convinced at least 3 people to steer clear of FOMOCO when buying a new vehicle. A good friend of mine is about to buy an SUV this week and I have her leaing towards a new Durango (I can't stand those things) instead of the Explorer she was looking at. I will continue my one man crusade to influence whover I can to buy other than Ford. They have already lost way more in profits on me alone than it would have cost them to fix my truck.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by LOCOSVT
I'm sad that the truck blew up.
I'm sad that the kid didn't know better, or didn't listen.
I'm sad that the warranty is going to be voided.

However, only one person is responsible. Not Ford. Not Superfords. If I were in Superfords shoes, I would have tried to help a L buddy too, regardless of the facts, and If successful, I don't think either of us would have jeopardized it by broadcasting it on this well known site.

All the 'pay to play' statements are SO obvious that only a newbie or an azzhole would feel the need to state it.

In short, I think what we can all do here is sympathise for the inexperienced owner and for the wounded truck. Share a moment of saddness for the truck, and for the pain of a fellow L owner.
Exactly.

Look he messed up, he was stupid, it's just really sad to see someone take a lot of effort to get something nice that they really love, and then shoot themselves in the foot. And no doubt he royally effed up but I woulda tried to help him too. Now he's basically 30k into the hole with a truck that doesnt run. By the time he's done with this he'll be lucky to have a 40k stock truck.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 02:51 PM
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I'm with superfords and let me explain. Like him, I work at a Ford dealer. As luck would have it, the day I install my FTVB (great piece Gregg) my truck goes Kaaboom (so I thought) What was wrong? The O2 sensor at the rear of the cats hit the exhaust pipes under hard acceleration and caused a short which blew a fuse under the hood. This sent the L into limp mode (man do they run bad in limp mode). The stupid azz tech that worked on my L wanted to void my warranty and blame the FTVB for the failure before he even started looking. Now everyone knows we put FTVB's in to SAVE our trannys. It is a mechanical improvement that has nothing to do with electrical functions of our motors.

This is why I AGREE with superfords. Ford or the tech's, or the inspectors are looking for the easy way out and trying not to pay. I believe that if I screw up I should pay. But that's only if I screw up. If a factory defect or failed part causes something to go wrong, don't just look to the mod and say your screwed. Like Chris said, they are supposed to prove the mod caused the failure and they don't. I just don't want to be the guy that gets screwed.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 03:05 PM
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Dang I can't believe noone said it yet

You gotsta pay to pla.........nevermind


Sounds like that kid has/had more money than sense.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by Mart Man 03 L
I believe that if I screw up I should pay. But that's only if I screw up. If a factory defect or failed part causes something to go wrong, don't just look to the mod and say your screwed. Like Chris said, they are supposed to prove the mod caused the failure and they don't. I just don't want to be the guy that gets screwed.
I believe, according to the story that Superfords stated, the kid screwed up with his mods. He was running a 6# pulley with no chip and I wouldn't be surprised if he was geting on it also. That recipe alone is meant for destruction which is what happened. It wouldn't take a rocket scientist to know that this set up was a disaster waiting to happen. There's your proof. Ford has it's faults, but this isn't one of them. Unfortunately the kid screwed up and will now have to pay the price.
 

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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 03:42 PM
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I believe, according to the story that Superfords stated, the kid screwed up with his mods. He was running a 6# pulley with no chip and I wouldn't be surprised if he was geting on it also. That recipe alone is meant for destruction which is what happened. It wouldn't take a rocket scientist to know that this set up was a disater waiting to happen. There's your proof. Ford has it's faults, but this isn't one of them. Unfortunately the kid screwed up and will now have to pay the price.
With you all the way on that one. Just don't want to see everyone that Mod's (and does it right) get dumped into one big basket by Ford. You know the you aint got no warranty no mo basket.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 04:44 PM
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I know if ever did any mods to my truck that i would remove them and all the traces before i sent it in for repair. imean you only have 3 years of warranty why not take advantage of it while you have it.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 04:52 PM
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******* ford i got my engine replaced i had about every mod on it,of course it was completely stock when the tow truck picked me up on the interstate to tow me to the dealer.
 
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