Motor Trend SRT-10 article DETAILS AND TESTING.
'01's wife here.
First off, another thing that the article on the Ford GT and Viper said............ but was neglected in this discussion was: The Viper is a production version, the Ford GT was a prototype. Also: " our Viper was tested on what might've been a slightly grippier section of test-track pavement."
That said, I will reserve thoughts on final numbers till the production GT comes out next year. However, I will say that I would buy a GT before a Viper anyday. I think they really toned down the looks of the Viper with the redesign............. and the car still is not easy to drive at the limits.
As for the Ram SRT-10, I believe stated weight is 5150lbs. Thus it is 470lbs heavier than the L.
I think the two will be a drivers race to win or lose. I also think that this may be a moot point, as the likelyhood of actually seeing one on the street or track will be very slim. There are only going to be 2500 built per year.
First off, another thing that the article on the Ford GT and Viper said............ but was neglected in this discussion was: The Viper is a production version, the Ford GT was a prototype. Also: " our Viper was tested on what might've been a slightly grippier section of test-track pavement."
That said, I will reserve thoughts on final numbers till the production GT comes out next year. However, I will say that I would buy a GT before a Viper anyday. I think they really toned down the looks of the Viper with the redesign............. and the car still is not easy to drive at the limits.
As for the Ram SRT-10, I believe stated weight is 5150lbs. Thus it is 470lbs heavier than the L.
I think the two will be a drivers race to win or lose. I also think that this may be a moot point, as the likelyhood of actually seeing one on the street or track will be very slim. There are only going to be 2500 built per year.
I have the specs from the 02 SVT Lightning TruckTrend tested in the July/August 02 issue.
Lightning ran:
0-60 in 5.24 seconds
1/4 mile in 13.75 @ 101.56 seconds
60-0 feet in 122 feet
600 foot slalom - 60.61 mph
Wheres this supposed lightning killer?
Lightning ran:
0-60 in 5.24 seconds
1/4 mile in 13.75 @ 101.56 seconds
60-0 feet in 122 feet
600 foot slalom - 60.61 mph
Wheres this supposed lightning killer?
Originally posted by 03F15054FX4
I have the specs from the 02 SVT Lightning TruckTrend tested in the July/August 02 issue.
Lightning ran:
0-60 in 5.24 seconds
1/4 mile in 13.75 @ 101.56 seconds
60-0 feet in 122 feet
600 foot slalom - 60.61 mph
Wheres this supposed lightning killer?
I have the specs from the 02 SVT Lightning TruckTrend tested in the July/August 02 issue.
Lightning ran:
0-60 in 5.24 seconds
1/4 mile in 13.75 @ 101.56 seconds
60-0 feet in 122 feet
600 foot slalom - 60.61 mph
Wheres this supposed lightning killer?
exactly and they note themselves as "professional" drivers
I know this is mute (SRT-10 is NOT OUT YET), but here goes. My best stock time on my 03 DSG L is 13.46 at little over 100mph (63F), my fastest mph is 101.89, at 13:59 (72f). I will love to line up againist a SRT-10 (when they came out), cause it will be a driver, driven race. I once raced a 10sec car, and won, cause he could not put the power down, every time he tryed, he got sideways. So with the SRT-10 being a standard shift, they better not miss a gear. Because I've won a few races againist faster standards, they missed a shift, shifted at the wrong time, or over rev it. (it's a lot harder to run a standard to it's limits) To where our L's are automatics, they shift like clock work. (never missing a beat) I love my L
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imagine lining up against one at the track, you both launch good, he misses a gear you fly by, the engine over revs and is smoking at the end of the track.......
Originally posted by MotorcycleMan
I know this is mute (SRT-10 is NOT OUT YET), but here goes. My best stock time on my 03 DSG L is 13.46 at little over 100mph (63F), my fastest mph is 101.89, at 13:59 (72f). I will love to line up againist a SRT-10 (when they came out), cause it will be a driver, driven race. I once raced a 10sec car, and won, cause he could not put the power down, every time he tryed, he got sideways. So with the SRT-10 being a standard shift, they better not miss a gear. Because I've won a few races againist faster standards, they missed a shift, shifted at the wrong time, or over rev it. (it's a lot harder to run a standard to it's limits) To where our L's are automatics, they shift like clock work. (never missing a beat) I love my L
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I know this is mute (SRT-10 is NOT OUT YET), but here goes. My best stock time on my 03 DSG L is 13.46 at little over 100mph (63F), my fastest mph is 101.89, at 13:59 (72f). I will love to line up againist a SRT-10 (when they came out), cause it will be a driver, driven race. I once raced a 10sec car, and won, cause he could not put the power down, every time he tryed, he got sideways. So with the SRT-10 being a standard shift, they better not miss a gear. Because I've won a few races againist faster standards, they missed a shift, shifted at the wrong time, or over rev it. (it's a lot harder to run a standard to it's limits) To where our L's are automatics, they shift like clock work. (never missing a beat) I love my L
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uhhhh
SRT-10's ARE out
Originally posted by Spanky99L
uhhhh
SRT-10's ARE out
uhhhh
SRT-10's ARE out
The truth is if they wanted to do a real comparison,They would have hit ALL the points.Just cause something is faster doesnt make it king of the hill.I ran 13.60s STOCK full wieght on f1s with my 02L.
unbiased comparison should say".The srt-10 is slightly faster but we have recorded Lightnings running quicker on numerous occasions"."for an extra $15k,Dodge gave us a slower more expensive less drivable brick on wheels BUT it has bragging rights cause it has 500hp which it needs to move the extra 400+ lbs it weighs!!"
The truth is,in reality the only thing dodge has over our trucks it a higher HP rating and a higher price tag.If you wanted to compare the to trucks unbiased,The lightning would win every time with its performance #s (except hp) and with its drivabilty.
also with 90% of tq rated so low,Its no wonder why the 500hp truck is slower than we expected.
Basically dodge did something well behind the technology age.They took a high performance ***CAR***!!!!!!! engine and tossed it in a pick up and called it a day.just like the chevy did in 90,Chevy was just lucky enough that it worked a little better for them!
with just a chip/filter i welcome one of these ***** boxes at ANY stop light and I will make it very embarrasing for them going by them sideways!
Another note which will be VERY benefitting for Stock lightning owners who chose to go up against one of these at a stop light.90% of stock lightnings get AWESOME traction right off the line and although we can smoke the tires when we want,We can also hook up just as easy when stock.This means we will beat them every time on the street!
Its just politics that the magazine gave such a good rating to the dodge.They needed something for having the ***** to at least try and compete.Chevy hasnt yet.
unbiased comparison should say".The srt-10 is slightly faster but we have recorded Lightnings running quicker on numerous occasions"."for an extra $15k,Dodge gave us a slower more expensive less drivable brick on wheels BUT it has bragging rights cause it has 500hp which it needs to move the extra 400+ lbs it weighs!!"
The truth is,in reality the only thing dodge has over our trucks it a higher HP rating and a higher price tag.If you wanted to compare the to trucks unbiased,The lightning would win every time with its performance #s (except hp) and with its drivabilty.
also with 90% of tq rated so low,Its no wonder why the 500hp truck is slower than we expected.
Basically dodge did something well behind the technology age.They took a high performance ***CAR***!!!!!!! engine and tossed it in a pick up and called it a day.just like the chevy did in 90,Chevy was just lucky enough that it worked a little better for them!
with just a chip/filter i welcome one of these ***** boxes at ANY stop light and I will make it very embarrasing for them going by them sideways!
Another note which will be VERY benefitting for Stock lightning owners who chose to go up against one of these at a stop light.90% of stock lightnings get AWESOME traction right off the line and although we can smoke the tires when we want,We can also hook up just as easy when stock.This means we will beat them every time on the street!
Its just politics that the magazine gave such a good rating to the dodge.They needed something for having the ***** to at least try and compete.Chevy hasnt yet.
The big difference
Almost 500 lbs heavier and sitting much higher, the big difference will be in the handling department. For me that makes a big difference.
Around a road racing track, any Lightning will embarass them badly. At the drag races, it's a toss up.
TB
Around a road racing track, any Lightning will embarass them badly. At the drag races, it's a toss up.
TB
The SRT's actually handle well. Members of many of the country's Prowler clubs were actually invited to drive the SRT around an autocross track (staying in 2nd gear). One fellow wrote up a review that mentioned how unexpectedly well the truck tracked.
People still laugh at even a modified Gen2 racing on Thunderhill.... looks are deceiving in all things.
People still laugh at even a modified Gen2 racing on Thunderhill.... looks are deceiving in all things.
I'd be interested also in how the curves of the HP and torque look? one thing that's interesting about L's (even stock) is that the have torque right there when you need it and the HP starts a very steady yet small slope until it max's out--in general the HP and torque curves are quite flat.... if these SRT10 motors don't have the area under the curve (hence, they peak only at the end), then they're really gonna feel all the things holding it back, such as what all we've heard (for example, crappy tranny, shifter, height (center of mass), BIG wheels, aerodynamics, weight, etc etc etc...)
my $.02
-Mike
my $.02
-Mike
Torque
Originally posted by Red03SVT
I'd be interested also in how the curves of the HP and torque look? one thing that's interesting about L's (even stock) is that the have torque right there when you need it and the HP starts a very steady yet small slope until it max's out--in general the HP and torque curves are quite flat.... if these SRT10 motors don't have the area under the curve (hence, they peak only at the end), then they're really gonna feel all the things holding it back, such as what all we've heard (for example, crappy tranny, shifter, height (center of mass), BIG wheels, aerodynamics, weight, etc etc etc...)
my $.02
-Mike
I'd be interested also in how the curves of the HP and torque look? one thing that's interesting about L's (even stock) is that the have torque right there when you need it and the HP starts a very steady yet small slope until it max's out--in general the HP and torque curves are quite flat.... if these SRT10 motors don't have the area under the curve (hence, they peak only at the end), then they're really gonna feel all the things holding it back, such as what all we've heard (for example, crappy tranny, shifter, height (center of mass), BIG wheels, aerodynamics, weight, etc etc etc...)
my $.02
-Mike
TB
Originally posted by 1meanZ
That truck must weigh 6000lbs if 500 HP only gets it to a 13.86 1/4. I agree it should be running at least 13.50's with that trap speed but that still isn't that impressive for having 500 HP.
That truck must weigh 6000lbs if 500 HP only gets it to a 13.86 1/4. I agree it should be running at least 13.50's with that trap speed but that still isn't that impressive for having 500 HP.


