From what I can find on the net, the system will be basically a second reservoir tank plumbed into the system with an electronic valve to choose which tank. 30 degrees is their target which is close to the return line temp on the a/c... isn't that about 28*? Anyway, the secondary tank would have some kind of tubing/radiator or something inside the tank to chill the fluid...

How much more information does anyone have? Second, how could ford possibly get a patent on such a device since there are other vehicles with a similar system (cyclone/typhoon?) I don't know how similar, but this seems to me to be a patent that will be tough to enforce.

Anyway, I have pretty much figured out all the pieces and parts for the most part, including the elctric valve, to make this little project happen on a current generation L.

SVT is claiming 50+ HP for up to 45 seconds... That's just not possible... They say up to 20% more heat removed. Assume 150 degree intake charge dropped 20%... that's 30 degrees or roughly a 3% increase in HP. 3% on 500 is only 15... All it takes is ONE WOT blast and those fluid temps will be right back up to 140-150 degrees... No way can that thing last 45 seconds under heavy load.

Has anyone dynoed a truck to see what icewater in a powercooler does on a dyno? I can't imagine how this unit could be any more efficient since the current powercoolers are, in fact, using 30ish degree fluid.

I'm seriously considering putting together a prototype as an experiment, but not if it's 15hp for 15 seconds...

 

The Syclone/Typhoon trucks had a Charge Air Cooler (CAC) which is basically a air to water intercooler. No a/c charge was involved.

I read a rescent interview with Mr.Coletti and it sounds like the system will be cost prohibitive and also getting it emissions certified is a concern. So don't hold your breath for it basically.

As a side note, that a/c intercooler system has been around for 10 years now. It first appeared on the Mustang Mach III concept in '93.

 

I would think this could be built in one-offs for between 500-750 each.

Items needed and a price estimate on the high side:

small heatexchanger/radiator for the a/c return line 150 bucks
small pump to circulate fluid $50
thermal box 75
electric valve 50
switches and wiring 25
temperature gauge 50
intercooler tubing 25
a/c tubing 25
labor for A/C work 100

That's 600 bucks assuming the prices above are not too high...

would anyone pay 600 bucks for one of these units if it put 25hp or so to the ground for 15 seconds?

 

These guys offer universal units.

http://www.coolflow.com/intracooler/intercooler.htm

Jody

 

Then you need a larger reservoir

-Don

 

Prices seem competative with ken's...especially the install

1/2-Ton Chillers (w/o Accessories)_$950

1-Ton Chillers (w/o Accessories)_$1,400

Buick Turbo GN "Combo-Units"_$1,800

Complete Installations_ $2,500 - $25,000

 

Maybe I don't understand the concept, but don't fluids freeze at 32 degrees?

 

Water freezes at 32 degrees. Not all fluids.

 

It is supposedly a tank of glycol which stays around 30 degrees and is kept cold by the a/c reservoir.

 

a 75/25 water/glycol mix would not freeze until WELL below 32 degrees.

The coolflow guy is here in houston. I am going to go over to his shop next week and have a chat...

 

That makes since. Thanks for the info.

 

is there some type of electric cooler available

 

what do texans know about freezing water? JK
Water's already frozen up here in MIchigan!

 

I think this solution seems much more feasible and better off.

Using the a/c to cool is going to take power away from the engine and thereby lower milage, it might not be much but it'll be there. And also, you will need your engine running to cool the tank correct? If this is the case then after you do a run down the track you have to leave the engine on and running to cool your fluids, i don't know it seems like your shooting yourself in the foot.

But an electric cooler would be much more interesting and appealing. Probably an easier setup too.

 

Hey...easy there...here in A-town it can get into the 20s for a few days in the winter. J/K

We don't know anything about freezing water, but we know a lot about removing heat. We'd die down here without some A/C in the summer!

--Rip