Yes the predator for the Lightnings/HD trucks will soon be released.(From Many Vendors). We @ JLP Have been working with Diablo to get the basic tunes ready for the predator....We @ JLP have the Revolution software!. We will not only be selling the *Base* Tunes from diablo sport but we will be also offering our *Custom JLP Tunes* we have the capibility to change any and all parameters to offer to the customer... We will be offering our years of tuning abilties & Experiences with the Lightning/HD trucks.. So keep this in mind when you decide to purchase the predator.. You might see alot of *marketing tactics* to sell the predator,but we @ JLP will be offering years of Knowledge & Experience with our JLP *Tunes*..... JL

 

Will the predator with its code and data reading capabilites be able to give us air/ fuel ratios through the stock 02's, or do we still need to get an air/ fuel meter or dyno to get that information?

 

it will give you 02 voltage. which can be translated into a/f's......JL

 

Hi Mortis. Lemme guess Johnny, two more weeks??

 

can this be done without warranty issues? or is this a chip/tuner combo?

 

it flashes the pcm through the DLC

messing with the pcm for any reason is pretty much a voided warranty.

 

Just in time for Christmas

 

THE PREDATOR IS GONNA BE THE ULTIMATE DEFENCE

Sounds like you got an advantage over some of the others
with selling it too Johnny

 

Ok, this question has been asked many, many times, and still hasn't been answered authoritatively. If you flash your PCM with a program, and then reflash back to the stock program, is there any way the dealer can tell? Is there a timestamp on the flash? Is there an incremented bit for a flash/reflash? Is there a checksum or parity check that has to match? Is there a port access log/register?

 

From my rather basic understanding of flash and assumptions of what the predator will be doing... here is an answer for you...

Johnny -- feel free to correct me...

the predator is supposed to download and store the stock computer program "exactly" as it is on the ECU. Unless there is *another* flash type device on the ECU keeping track of programs as the come on/off the ECU, I don't think there would be any way to trace it. I would say that simply returning to stock and driving into the dealer might be an issue. I'd put 50 miles or so on my truck with the stock program before taking it in.

Ford is NOT dumb and I'm sure they will, if possible, find a way to detect the flash being changed. If the current gen computers can tell, I guarantee you the future ones can.

Sorry I can't give you a definitive answer, but my current assumption is that they will NOT be able to tell that you have downloaded a new program assuming you drive it around and let the adaptive system fill in all the tables before you take it in.

 

My understanding is the dealership will only be able to see the date of the last flash. I guess it will depend on how hard they look.

 

*Any Time* The Processor is reflashed it is able to be detected...Will ford dealers go that far to see? well thats hard to tell. This is why i never tried to sell this unit on the bases that ford will never know!..I'm sure they'll go that far at some point.....JL

 

Johnny, Can you give us a ball park figure in terms of price. I need to have my Sport chip re-tuned from you because of some changes to the truck I made. So then I thought maybe I should just get a flip chip from you. Now I am thinking I should wait a bit and get the Predator. But that will depend on the price I guess.

The thing I like about the Predator is the worry about the chip making full contact with the board is no longer an issue.

 

JL,

Where is the information stored with the stamp for the last flash time/date? In the flash itself? If so I would think that part could be "tricked". Is it still possible to tell it has been reflashed even after driving it a while? What part are they looking at in the computer to tell is has been reflashed?

thx!