flip chip worth it?
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From: Selden NY
WELCOME RYAN 
Needing multi programs depends on your habbits + needs ???
If your racing at the track often and you like a more aggressive
program than the street program,
then yes you prob want a multi program.
Also if the street program is higher than say 17 degrees of timing,
and you live in a cold climate place, you may need less timing
in the winter to prevent Detonation.
(remember our PCM's can add up to 3 degrees in cold weather)
If however you just want the pleasures of the added HP/Torque,
dumping the annoying Torque Reduction, raising the Rev Limiter,
maybe some tiny tranny tweaks, higher Timing, and the correct A/F, and you dont plan on needing more than one program,
then a single chip will do fine.
I went from a single Diablo to a Double, but due to me running Nitrous that was a must.
Just for the record though, other than the Nitrous tune,
I've always ran the same program in the street than I do on the track. For what reason some ask ? So my L runs the same on the street as it does at the track
I currently run 18 degrees 24/7 and have a 2nd 16 degree program for a safer Nitrous tune, a Winter tune, Hi Speed Parkway Runs, and it can also be used 24/7 for better Economy (of course I never do that, I love my timing)
Needing multi programs depends on your habbits + needs ???
If your racing at the track often and you like a more aggressive
program than the street program,
then yes you prob want a multi program.
Also if the street program is higher than say 17 degrees of timing,
and you live in a cold climate place, you may need less timing
in the winter to prevent Detonation.
(remember our PCM's can add up to 3 degrees in cold weather)
If however you just want the pleasures of the added HP/Torque,
dumping the annoying Torque Reduction, raising the Rev Limiter,
maybe some tiny tranny tweaks, higher Timing, and the correct A/F, and you dont plan on needing more than one program,
then a single chip will do fine.
I went from a single Diablo to a Double, but due to me running Nitrous that was a must.
Just for the record though, other than the Nitrous tune,
I've always ran the same program in the street than I do on the track. For what reason some ask ? So my L runs the same on the street as it does at the track
I currently run 18 degrees 24/7 and have a 2nd 16 degree program for a safer Nitrous tune, a Winter tune, Hi Speed Parkway Runs, and it can also be used 24/7 for better Economy (of course I never do that, I love my timing)
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From: Paradise
Ryan
I wanted the Diablo Delta (flip), but for some unexplained reason my L just kept stalling out with the flip chip. I don't know if other '03 L's have experienced the same problem?
A single file chip worked perfectly, no stalling no problems - so that is the route I took . And now after having to go that route I am really happy with the one program. I look at it, why not have max power all the time. Although it does help a little that my L is just a weekend fun toy.
Good Luck and Welcome!
D-Day
I wanted the Diablo Delta (flip), but for some unexplained reason my L just kept stalling out with the flip chip. I don't know if other '03 L's have experienced the same problem?
A single file chip worked perfectly, no stalling no problems - so that is the route I took . And now after having to go that route I am really happy with the one program. I look at it, why not have max power all the time. Although it does help a little that my L is just a weekend fun toy.
Good Luck and Welcome!
D-Day
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From: SE Mich
I have a diablo flip chip in which the truck was tuned at REM.
Red = race (in cold weather) and green = street for me.
WOT
Red = race (in cold weather) and green = street for me.
WOT
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From: NJ
Rob cover it all, it's dependant on your needs.
Warm weather/cool weather
Street/Race
Street/Nitrous
Street/Vallet
???/???
If you don't think you'll ever need one of those combinations, then go for a single chip
Warm weather/cool weather
Street/Race
Street/Nitrous
Street/Vallet
???/???
If you don't think you'll ever need one of those combinations, then go for a single chip
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From: Motor City
Originally posted by l-menace
NO.
I have a flip chip and need racing fuel to run the race program.
Guess what I ahve NEVER ran the Race program
NO.
I have a flip chip and need racing fuel to run the race program.
Guess what I ahve NEVER ran the Race program
I had a flip chip and loved it.
--Joe
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From: JASPER,ALABAMA
I just got my flip chip so if you decide that a single program chip is the way you want to go let me know and I'll make you a good deal on a superchip that is already programed. noctrnalmedic@cs.com
