Supercharged Tundra...
Supercharged Tundra...
Has anyone "encountered" a Tundra with the TRD Supercharger?
The truck has a multi valved V8 & it's my understanding it puts out 250 HP. With the S/C, supposedly 350.
I have a friend who has it and wants a "showdown"....Anyone had a run-in with one yet? If so, what do you think?
The truck has a multi valved V8 & it's my understanding it puts out 250 HP. With the S/C, supposedly 350.
I have a friend who has it and wants a "showdown"....Anyone had a run-in with one yet? If so, what do you think?
I have not personally been in a direct altercation with the Super Toy. However, I have seen one eat a Dodge Hemi V-10 for breakfast. I mean it stomped the guts out of the dodge by several car lengths in the first 100 feet or so. So unless your strokin it I don't suggest you toy with the Super toy. Now on the otherhand. If you are Supered, dualed, chipped, and axled rock on brother you'll kill em dead this goes for the 46 or larger. The stock lightning or SC Harley will crush the super toy bones to bones. But then again they are comperable models.
Re: Tundra, not your average toy
Originally posted by cgorris
I have not personally been in a direct altercation with the Super Toy. However, I have seen one eat a Dodge Hemi V-10 for breakfast.
I have not personally been in a direct altercation with the Super Toy. However, I have seen one eat a Dodge Hemi V-10 for breakfast.
A Hemi V10?
BTW ,Ive raced a 5.7 hemi and I whooped it bad by multiple car lengths up to 100mph and that was in the truck! So beating the crap out a Hemi truck isnt really saying much.
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alright people -- the tundra is no big deal-- It isn't intercooled and the S/C is smaller. I ran the stock L against it (it was a 4x4 access cab -- same weight as the l)
and got at least 5-6 car lengths up to 90. I got to drive it and it does liven up the tundra but there really is no competition -- if anyone is interested i can post this reallly long write up on the Tundra boards that the dude did---
and got at least 5-6 car lengths up to 90. I got to drive it and it does liven up the tundra but there really is no competition -- if anyone is interested i can post this reallly long write up on the Tundra boards that the dude did---
I had a firend that was gonna get a tundra and put a supercharger on it. He said i wouldnt stand a chance once he did this. He never got the tundra and is now looking at a supra and he always tells me how it is gonna kill me. He is one off those all bark no bite people that will probley never get a supra.
That Tundra Engine has alot of potential, Matt and Jay Scranton put forged parts, worked the heads, added a Turbo and went over 200MPH over 2yrs ago. I realize its a full race car but none the less it shows what the motor (Stock Block,Crank and Heads)can do.
No problemo for the L...I've ran one from a stop and from a roll, and destroyed it-- multiple truck lengths, and pulled away at any speed. I've got a totally stock '00, so a '01 with chipnfilter+2 should really 'toy' with it. (Pun intended)
Well here are some of his posts... There was tons more than i wanted to post, but if you wanted to read up on it go to tundrasolutions.com --- its kinda a pain becaseu you have to wait to be approved but if you want to do it search under my username of player19 and look for lighting vs. supercharger thread and there is another thread about when he took it to the track------
i have to add that i was going 20 while he was coming by at double the speed . i punched it and the l just spooled up and didn't let him get by and pulled on him-- -so there was no competition....
I also have a 4x4 2k tundra access cab and man his spanked mine
Now obviously there were additional post correcting him of the lighting rear end ratio so jsut disregard that.....
From tundrasolutions.com
Met up with Tundra owners yesterday to show off the supercharged truck, and to run up against a 99 Ford Lightning for some comparison runs, to get an idea on how this truck performs in comparison!
Lightning specs:
4670lbs
Eaton M112 Roots Charger 8psi boost
Intercooled, sports suspension with 295 Eagle F1 tires.
Standard Cab Pickup, with 5.4L motor
Stock 360hp, 440ftlbs, Aerodynamic body work
Close ratio 4 speed EOD4 automatic
Flowmaster Exhaust = Unknown power gain?
My Tundra specs:
4470lbs(Yes it weighs less!)
Eaton M90 Roots Charger 7psi boost
non-intercooled, TRD off road suspension with 265 BFG All Terains
Access Cab Pickup, with 4.7L motor
Stock 245hp, 315ftlbs, Ivan Stewart Aero kit, 4X4 Stance
4 speed automatic
TRD S/C, Airfilter, JBA headers, Flowmaster Exhaust = 370 to 380hp and 415 to 425ftlbs, according to TRD!
Before I get to how we ran I felt this needed explaining!
The biggest problem with this setup is the fact that I have said before, that it just kind of dies out after 70mph. This is when third gear is hit. I tried playing around with the exhaust and think that I just wasted some money, cause I got some difference but such a miniscule amount I could not feel much difference. The more I opened the exhaust, the better at speed it pulled. The more closed the exhaust the better it pulled from a stop. First and Second on our trucks is a nice and short gear for great pulling and offraoding situations, third is a pretty big jump to a tall economy daily driving gear. While playing around with the transmission and shifting up and down around 3000 rpm to monitor rpm differences with the gears I found out how tall the difference is on the 1 to 4 shifts.
On the 1 to 2 shift, there is about 800rpm difference when it shifts into 2nd, or back to first. When shifting to 3rd gear its about 1200rpm difference into 3rd or back to 2nd. Then when shifting to 4 or back to 3, its about 800rpm difference. This is a big jump for the 2nd to 3rd gear, considering that most driving when towing or doing work will probably not be in that gear. Makes sense but does not help in the performance market. Then again these are not hotrodded trucks like the SVT Ford
Found a safe road to compare then got a couple of good runs between the trucks to about 90 mph. The lightning had two people, and I had just me and 3/4 full tank of gas! Both have traction issues as is, but gave good comparison. Pretty darn close to the Lightning, until 3rd gear. From a launch until about 60mph, the lightning would pull about 1 & 1/2 a car length between us, then on the Tundras 3rd gear shift the lightning just pulls steadily away getting about 4 to 5 car lengths by the time I hit 90! It looks a lot further away when racing, but is not completely blowing my doors off either! I was quite happy with how well the Tundra did! Both Player19 and 2DaMax drove the truck and by no means were disappointed! Player19 then let me drive the Ford. It is surprizing how much faster the Ford feels, but it is not that much faster than the Tundra than it feels like it is. With the 5.4L motor the torque difference is majorly apparent. The Lightning does not feel like it is working hard to do what it does, and it is much quiter and refined than the S/C Tundra. The Tundra feels great, but in comparison, it feels like it is working real hard compared to the Ford. You would think that with a lighter weight, and maybe more power that it would be as fast, but the major difference is in the torque curve. The 5.4 is just so flat and strong, and the gearing of the trannies make the biggest difference. The suspension probably only makes about .1 second of difference between the trucks. It is the overall power, torque and gearing multiplications that make the big difference. With regeared and slightly wider, and smaller diameter tire application Tundra will hold up better, but will still not make the torque like the Ford, and we all know the most important thing to make accelleration is the torque. The Ford has 29" tires, mine has 31" tires. The Ford has a 4.11 rear, the Tundra has a 3.9 rear gear! If all was setup the same I think with the higher horsepower and lower torque the Tundra would be right on with the lightning!
another post from a guy that was there...
Yesterday evening was really fun! Hodgeee's supercharged Tundra is very quick. Even Player19 (owner of Lightning) was pretty impressed of how quick it was. Two things I've noticed are: 1) instant response the moment you mash in the gas pedal and 2) how the rear tires lock on at launch. I began my test drive on Hodgeee's truck by mildly going up to 25mph, and then suddenly mashing the gas pedal. The response is awesome! And the truck pulled hard and strong. As Hodgeee have already mentioned, at 3rd gear the response seems to have flattened out, which made it seem to pull alot less. This leaves me the impression that with the tranny gearing ratio, the supercharger gives this tundra a big start advantage and by the time 3rd gear kicks, it should be several car length a head in most cases. Then I stopped at a traffic light and then launched hard at the green, the rear tires locked w/o much burn out, thanks to the Eaton LSD. Eventhough it's rolling on 31" BFG A/T K/Os, the trucks ability to lock on for traction is real impressive. I roll on the same tires only its 32.9 but w/o the LSD so I now have an idea of how LSD improves traction immensely. During the drag runs, I was in the Lightning with Player19. The Lightning proved to have more torque and pulled away harder from the Tundra. But we know how the Lightning has the total performance package compared to the tundra w/ a supercharger, headers, and performance exhaust system. As Hodgeee have mentioned, with a few more additional tweeks on the tundra, it will give the Lightning a run for its money. Still the S/C'd tundra is very fun to drive and is very capable to blow the doors off of a few supped up rice burners and other high performance trucks out there. Wish my tundra has the s/c too.
and a part from the track post
R/T .893 (better)
60' 2.332
1/4 15.496
mph 91
Still, MUCH slower than I wanted and hoped for! But for the speedway it is respectable, and I was running much faster than most of the hondas and other cars that were not pure muscle cars, or highly modified. Ran faster than about 1/3 of the Mustangs that were out there! Got back to the pit area and got in line with about 200 cars in front of me, and started thinking about why my vehicle is runnins slow to me! Now I had seen 3 lightnings out there, I only bring this up since I ran mine against Player19's Lightning. Two were stock, and ran 14.9 quarters each, they complained of feeling weak also, we all pretty much agreed that the first run with the cars just idling for a long period made the difference. One was modified a little with a smaller pulley for the charger and running 3lbs more boost. He ran 14.6, and the other trucks did not break 14.8
i have to add that i was going 20 while he was coming by at double the speed . i punched it and the l just spooled up and didn't let him get by and pulled on him-- -so there was no competition....
I also have a 4x4 2k tundra access cab and man his spanked mine

Now obviously there were additional post correcting him of the lighting rear end ratio so jsut disregard that.....
From tundrasolutions.com
Met up with Tundra owners yesterday to show off the supercharged truck, and to run up against a 99 Ford Lightning for some comparison runs, to get an idea on how this truck performs in comparison!
Lightning specs:
4670lbs
Eaton M112 Roots Charger 8psi boost
Intercooled, sports suspension with 295 Eagle F1 tires.
Standard Cab Pickup, with 5.4L motor
Stock 360hp, 440ftlbs, Aerodynamic body work
Close ratio 4 speed EOD4 automatic
Flowmaster Exhaust = Unknown power gain?
My Tundra specs:
4470lbs(Yes it weighs less!)
Eaton M90 Roots Charger 7psi boost
non-intercooled, TRD off road suspension with 265 BFG All Terains
Access Cab Pickup, with 4.7L motor
Stock 245hp, 315ftlbs, Ivan Stewart Aero kit, 4X4 Stance
4 speed automatic
TRD S/C, Airfilter, JBA headers, Flowmaster Exhaust = 370 to 380hp and 415 to 425ftlbs, according to TRD!
Before I get to how we ran I felt this needed explaining!
The biggest problem with this setup is the fact that I have said before, that it just kind of dies out after 70mph. This is when third gear is hit. I tried playing around with the exhaust and think that I just wasted some money, cause I got some difference but such a miniscule amount I could not feel much difference. The more I opened the exhaust, the better at speed it pulled. The more closed the exhaust the better it pulled from a stop. First and Second on our trucks is a nice and short gear for great pulling and offraoding situations, third is a pretty big jump to a tall economy daily driving gear. While playing around with the transmission and shifting up and down around 3000 rpm to monitor rpm differences with the gears I found out how tall the difference is on the 1 to 4 shifts.
On the 1 to 2 shift, there is about 800rpm difference when it shifts into 2nd, or back to first. When shifting to 3rd gear its about 1200rpm difference into 3rd or back to 2nd. Then when shifting to 4 or back to 3, its about 800rpm difference. This is a big jump for the 2nd to 3rd gear, considering that most driving when towing or doing work will probably not be in that gear. Makes sense but does not help in the performance market. Then again these are not hotrodded trucks like the SVT Ford
Found a safe road to compare then got a couple of good runs between the trucks to about 90 mph. The lightning had two people, and I had just me and 3/4 full tank of gas! Both have traction issues as is, but gave good comparison. Pretty darn close to the Lightning, until 3rd gear. From a launch until about 60mph, the lightning would pull about 1 & 1/2 a car length between us, then on the Tundras 3rd gear shift the lightning just pulls steadily away getting about 4 to 5 car lengths by the time I hit 90! It looks a lot further away when racing, but is not completely blowing my doors off either! I was quite happy with how well the Tundra did! Both Player19 and 2DaMax drove the truck and by no means were disappointed! Player19 then let me drive the Ford. It is surprizing how much faster the Ford feels, but it is not that much faster than the Tundra than it feels like it is. With the 5.4L motor the torque difference is majorly apparent. The Lightning does not feel like it is working hard to do what it does, and it is much quiter and refined than the S/C Tundra. The Tundra feels great, but in comparison, it feels like it is working real hard compared to the Ford. You would think that with a lighter weight, and maybe more power that it would be as fast, but the major difference is in the torque curve. The 5.4 is just so flat and strong, and the gearing of the trannies make the biggest difference. The suspension probably only makes about .1 second of difference between the trucks. It is the overall power, torque and gearing multiplications that make the big difference. With regeared and slightly wider, and smaller diameter tire application Tundra will hold up better, but will still not make the torque like the Ford, and we all know the most important thing to make accelleration is the torque. The Ford has 29" tires, mine has 31" tires. The Ford has a 4.11 rear, the Tundra has a 3.9 rear gear! If all was setup the same I think with the higher horsepower and lower torque the Tundra would be right on with the lightning!
another post from a guy that was there...
Yesterday evening was really fun! Hodgeee's supercharged Tundra is very quick. Even Player19 (owner of Lightning) was pretty impressed of how quick it was. Two things I've noticed are: 1) instant response the moment you mash in the gas pedal and 2) how the rear tires lock on at launch. I began my test drive on Hodgeee's truck by mildly going up to 25mph, and then suddenly mashing the gas pedal. The response is awesome! And the truck pulled hard and strong. As Hodgeee have already mentioned, at 3rd gear the response seems to have flattened out, which made it seem to pull alot less. This leaves me the impression that with the tranny gearing ratio, the supercharger gives this tundra a big start advantage and by the time 3rd gear kicks, it should be several car length a head in most cases. Then I stopped at a traffic light and then launched hard at the green, the rear tires locked w/o much burn out, thanks to the Eaton LSD. Eventhough it's rolling on 31" BFG A/T K/Os, the trucks ability to lock on for traction is real impressive. I roll on the same tires only its 32.9 but w/o the LSD so I now have an idea of how LSD improves traction immensely. During the drag runs, I was in the Lightning with Player19. The Lightning proved to have more torque and pulled away harder from the Tundra. But we know how the Lightning has the total performance package compared to the tundra w/ a supercharger, headers, and performance exhaust system. As Hodgeee have mentioned, with a few more additional tweeks on the tundra, it will give the Lightning a run for its money. Still the S/C'd tundra is very fun to drive and is very capable to blow the doors off of a few supped up rice burners and other high performance trucks out there. Wish my tundra has the s/c too.
and a part from the track post
R/T .893 (better)
60' 2.332
1/4 15.496
mph 91
Still, MUCH slower than I wanted and hoped for! But for the speedway it is respectable, and I was running much faster than most of the hondas and other cars that were not pure muscle cars, or highly modified. Ran faster than about 1/3 of the Mustangs that were out there! Got back to the pit area and got in line with about 200 cars in front of me, and started thinking about why my vehicle is runnins slow to me! Now I had seen 3 lightnings out there, I only bring this up since I ran mine against Player19's Lightning. Two were stock, and ran 14.9 quarters each, they complained of feeling weak also, we all pretty much agreed that the first run with the cars just idling for a long period made the difference. One was modified a little with a smaller pulley for the charger and running 3lbs more boost. He ran 14.6, and the other trucks did not break 14.8


