Tim, canton has some nice hose with fittings that are barb on one side and -an the other. That is what I used to run the line for my accusump from the back of the truck to the front. Haven't had any problems in over 15K miles.

 

Tim,
Have you considered Amsoil By-Pass filters that filter particles less than 1 micron?

 

I stands for Air Force - Navy Aeronautical Standard. It replaced the triple flare way back when. The SAE 37 is similar but has a 37 degree flare versus the AN 30 degree.

Eric

 

Yeah, that Amsoil kit looks really sweet -- the billet housing and mounting bracket look top-notch. But I had already bought everything by the time I discovered them. From what i understand, you can't just add a bypass filter -- the Amsoil housing itself splits up the flow so that the full filter gets most of the flow while the bypass filter is fed only a small amount (hence the name "by-pass").

 

Thanks, John. Someone told me that the stock filter would no longer work with the Canton pan, but I just saw a photo of the underside of promodlightning's truck, and it looks like he has a Canton pan and the stock filter.

But, yes, the engine has to be lifted up in the front to change the pan. Which is why I have had the pan sitting in my living room for half a year.

 

Tim would you have used the Amsoil kit if you had known about it from the start?

Which system is better and why?

 

Beats me. The Amsoil product just looks super cool, and, of course, has compelling advertising copy. It seems to me that the bypass filter uses a filter so fine that it would slow the flow down too much on its own (like a reverse osmosis filter). So the main filter handles most of the flow. The bypass gets a small amount, but filters the bejesus out of it.

From a review of the literature, the primary sales point seems to be super-extended oil change intervals. The majority of the kits are for big rigs. Extended intervals means nothing to me. I change the oil all the time, as I am a city driver with a short commute (less than 10,000 miles per year), except for the occasional weekend where I punish the oil with sustained full-throttle driving at track events.

Perhaps the biggest thing that would keep me away is just Amsoil's pyramid marketing system. I just don't trust most companies that work that way -- too many rabid pushers getting high on their own BS. Not saying Amsoil doesn't work, mind you, just that I don't trust anything they say.

Take a look at the Amsoil system, though. The quality is obvious. I have noticed that my oil gets dark pretty fast -- I think my cone filter is to blame. I don't care what anyone says, nothing traps dirt like an OEM paper element. Maybe the Amsoil could filter out some of this junk.

My decision making was a little more primitive. Due to the Canton pan and (likely) cooler, I needed an external filter setup. Hmmm. . . a dual filter housing doesn't cost much more. One filter good. Two filters gooder. Nothing more sophisticated than that.

 

Tim,

The main reason your oil gets dirty faster is extra blowby with a fat WOT mixturer courtesy of forced induction.

 

Another way to help filter out those 'micron' sized stuff. It does work. I'm on my second oil change with it. The first one I cut open the filter it was way weird how you could see exactly where it sat on the filter. What it captured reminded me a lot of the tranny pan magnet. I have pics; just have to find them...
http://www.filtermag.com/

john

 

Tim, this post made me check out the rest of your web site. You have an awesome truck and an amazing site!! Thank you very much!

Matt

 

Amsoil actually has two systems. The first is an add-on By-Pass filter. It filters particles less than one micron and it filters all of the oil in a six quart system in about five minutes at an engine speed equivalent to 45 mph. The second setup is the Dual Remote Oil Filtration Kit. This incorporates a full flow filter and the By-Lass filter.

I understand your hesitation with their marketing scheme being somewhat similar to Amway but they do offer superior products. I'm a dealer but only for the fact that it enables me to buy at a lower price; I save money even if I only buy once a year.

Chris,
If you decide to go with Amsoil's kit, I can get it for you at the dealer cost. I don't actively sell the products but I don't retail it to my friends, either. Just let me know.

 

I just really like the idea of dual filters in a more accessible location and beefing up the lines.

Send me the info…

 

Here's a diagram of the by-pass filtration flow.

http://www.amsoil.com/products/bf_diagram02.htm

 

I as at the EAA fly in today and talked about this with an Amsoil rep at a booth there. He mentioned that you can remove the spring that forces oil through the by-pass filter. This will allow the oil to flow through either filter. The full flow filter will win out, and only 20% of the oil will flow through tbe by-pass filter. With the spring and valve in place 25% of the oil will be forced to flow throught through the by-pass. I forget the specific numbers, but for sake of discussion it now takes 9 minutes for all the oil to pass through the by-pass filter instead of 7 minutes.

With my math, you would have a filter and a quarter filter, but the quarter filter would remove the small particles that get crunched when the oil gets squeezed into a thin layer at WOT. The total oil capacity is 8 quarts of oil with the smaller filters and same oil pan.

 

I guess my question is would this be better than just having two filters of the same value?