This MADNESS must stop NOW before it does irreparable harm to someone and/or their vehicle!

If anyone wants to know the REAL truth, please go get "Secrets of Ford Tuning Revealed" from http://www.kotzigpublishing.com/0971541132.php

I didn't post about this book to give any specific company more credit than the other when it comes to tuning, or abilities, but it will give all individuals a damn good understanding of how tuning works, and how the pcm operates. It gives in depth info. on both performance modules (chips) and flash programming.

I'm hoping this post will allow more "real" experts, such as Mike Wesley, Patrick Stadjel, Brian Herron, etc., to step in and state the obvious, without them getting degraded as being some greedy, worried, money driven company. If any of you mentioned, or any "etc." would be so kind to do so, it would be beneficial to do such for obvious reasons. And hopefully the forums here will allow the "experts" to post without banning them for not being a supporting vendor (F150Online.com needs to remember that most of these individuals mentioned are actually the manufacturers of tuning equipment and software of the Supporting Vendors here).

Kevin, and any "Team Re-Flash" cronies, do NOT post in this thread if you have nothing else to do but attack, and give false, untruthful information based on perceptions, or from rumored fallacies given to you from what a so called "insider", or BOP, states.

Doug, I ask that you PLEASE remove any BS from this post as it occurs, if you're able. If factual, truthful, backed up and brought to the table info. can't be given, it doesn't need to be on here.

 

And likewise, can you explain in "factual, truthful, backed up" terms how a chip is a better alternative than what has been discussed via the reflash?

Or are you proposing that people take at face value that a chip is better, and anyone that questions that should have their posts edited or deleted?

Finally, in what form would you agree that something is "truthful" and "backed up"? Must it agree with your ideas in order to be truthful?

Jim

 

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The truth about chips from a book by a guy who developed Diablosport? Hmmm... I'm not saying that book wouldn't contain the truth but how about going to someone who has experience with and will supply either chips or reflashes?

 

What I'm stating and asking, is that information needs to agree with the REAL experts, and also with that book above, which gives complete factual information on both of the two programming techniques.

If your "insider" can come on here and give his reasoning, and somehow prove that the REAL experts are wrong, then that is what I'm asking.

The person who wrote that book above, in conjuction with tuning experts, is Ivan J. Kotzig. He is a longtime designer of automotive electronics, has a Master's degree in Engineering from Hungarian Technical University, and has dedicated his life to this field.

jmimac351, ultimately, if you're not a tuning expert, then stay out of this particular thread. It is nothing against you personally, or anyone else, so do not take it that way. Unless you have a degree, and/or over 20 years of combined experience in the electronics tuning field, then you're opinion is not what I'm looking for from this thread.

 

In what I posted, you'll see that the book in question actually discusses BOTH forms of programming, because the person who wrote that book, regardless of what his company name is, does BOTH forms of programming.

Not to get the thread too off topic, but here's some info. on that book:

 

There's already 2 BS posts in this thread that needs to be removed. Hopefully Doug will get on it soon.

 

Both being yours

 

This is getting a little funny.

Lance, then I presume we will no longer see you posting to this thread either?

Jim

 

Yet again, more BS that needs to be deleted. You guys have nothing to do but to kill threads, don't you?

Again, what I'm asking is to have the "known" experts in this field, that are obviously more credible because of their names and background, to come onto this thread and give their reasonings. Honestly, this thread has nothing to do with my knowledge, thoughts, or opinions on any of the matters.

 

You do realize that you are simply perpetuating the "reflashing vs. chips madness" by starting this thread right?

Brian Herron I can consider an expert. But Mike Wesley? Nahhh...

 

reflash = chip without physical chip.

 

If it happens in the least bit, then I pray that it will be controlled, and that the BS smartass replies will be deleted.

And Brian is not afraid to come onto a board and post either, so long as he is welcome, and not harassed. Ultimately, I may have to take this thread over to ModularFords.com and post it, but I want the reach of this forum, just not the BS that can come from it, as we know.

 

Anyone know how to get in touch with Mike Wesley?? He re-flashed my 93 Cobra years ago, and that was the best modification I did on the car. It dropped from 13.20's to a 12.90 with his tune. I have driven the car that way since 1996 without any issue and I love it. I have gone as far as putting it in friends mustangs to see how they like it. Trouble is none of us can find him to make new programs for us. If he could write a program for my truck, I would get it in a heartbeat regardless of cost.