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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 12:36 PM
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well to be honest it would be nice to have someone come in and show some solid numbers, i know someone did on another site, but some comparitive numbers, like 14 lbs with eaton 14lbs with the 112 and the KB. to me they need to drop the price of the 112 since it seems like a 30 hp gain and its way more than the kb
 
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 12:42 PM
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I actually ran less boost than my Eaton when I first put the Kenne Bell on and it still made more power (11 vs 13 psi). The biggest and best part of a aftermarket blower over the Eaton is in the upper Rpm's where the Eaton falls off quickly. The Kenne Bell(and I'm sure the works) just keeps pulling and it really picks up your MPH.

As far as the tuners posting that one blower is less streetable than another is pretty sad. Unless it is a real big unit ,which none of these are, they are all going to be real streetable. I've been building cars especially supercharged cars for over a decade so I have alot of experience and knowledge in that area.

It seems alot of times on here people are misinformed and thats why I spoke up. Unfortunately the tuners can't just sell their products, they have to down anothers product to do it, which is sad. I think they are all good products, but my OPINION would be the 140 or Kenne Bell because they offer more growth.

Just a opinion...
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 12:57 PM
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so thats the idea im seeing, i guess its just opionated, what i would really like to see are all three of them side by side to see what they do.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 01:10 PM
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i agree, lets see some testing info. Haven't seen much on the Works 112 at all really...or the 140 for that matter
 
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 01:18 PM
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maybe that should say something in itself.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 02:36 PM
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Eaton, Like we were discussing on Friday night I think the KB is a better choice, proven dyno runs and track runs are all over the internet and a decent price. Like you said it would be great to see back to back runs on all three.

You seem to have a slight prefrence towards the 112, me I prefer the KB, I feel the 140 may just be overkill on a stock short block. If you go ahead with the 112 I will still probably get the KB, then we can compare before and after runs on our trucks at say 12 and 14 pounds of boost then report back here

But I really think whatever we go for will be great, a few hp here or there is really nothing to worry about.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 02:42 PM
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One thing you must keep in mind is that eventually, with ANY aftermarket blower, it would be wise to build up your lower end. Thus, you must not only consider which blower is "streetable" and is "gentler" on your stock shortblock, but its full potential once you go with a built lower and crank up the boost.

As for streetable, I agree with what Tim says. And I've heard some pretty positive things about the Works 140 lately and it is a great choice in my opinion.

Also, please realize the "which blower is best question" is just like the often-asked "which catback should I get" question. People from the KB camps, some who own KBs themselves, are going to support that option, whereas the same holds true from the Works camp and owners. Not a flame towards anyone, but generally questions like these bring more opinion than data on this forum. JMO.
 

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Old Jun 23, 2003 | 01:14 AM
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Blowers

At about 6000 feet you will lose about 3 or 4 pounds of boost. You will want a blower with more airflow at that altitude. I would go with the K/B because you will need as much as the blower can put out at that altitude. I have a home in Big Bear Lake Ca. which is 6750 feet. Trust me, you will lose a lot of power at those elevations. My truck feels like it has a trailer in tow up there. It runs ok, but when you get on it, nothing happens. You will need a K/B with a stock lower and a 2.75 upper . You will make about 13 to 15 pounds of boost up there. You will be plenty safe at those boost levels as long as you have it tuned right. I just raised my boost level from about 12 or 13 to about 15 or 16 and my truck really came alive. It now makes some serious power. I run a stock motor and a K/B on 91 octane (no pinging) tuned by Danny Swanson. The K/B makes great power at low boost levels, but turn it up some and it really wakes up. I can not believe how much difference it made going from a 3" to a 2.75" blower pulley. I hope that this helps you out. Skip
 
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Old Jun 23, 2003 | 01:27 AM
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Mistake in last post

What the hell am I saying! I meant to say that I went from a 3.25" upper to a 3". Damn, am I dumb! Maybe a little tired too as I just drove back (115 Miles) from Big Bear in this Los Angeles traffic. Just remember at 6000 ft when it comes to blowers, that bigger is better. Skip
 
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Old Jun 23, 2003 | 01:32 AM
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Originally posted by air1kdf
I was told that the 112 is the best blower for a daily driven street truck.

Also it is quoted on here somewhere that the KB maxes out at 22PSI. Man am I envious.
I'm just trying to figure out where all of this crap comes from. "KB maxes out at 22PSI." WHAT?

I have my KB on my truck for the last 9K miles. I am currently running 22 psi on my daily driven KB equiped truck. Yes, 93 octane.
Let's see. What is better for a daily driven truck a works 112 which probably is near its max or a larger KB blower which is just getting started? I have personaly had mine to 26PSI. That is a 8.9" lower with a 2.5" upper on my engine.
Sorry, had to vent.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 02:05 AM
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Here ya go.

As I have owned a works 112 and KB, I must second that opinion. Don't get me wrong the Works112 was a good alternative to the factory eaton,BUT it is not even in the same league as the twin screws. Using the same set up on my truck the difference was 78hp and 116lbs of TQ. The only time the Works112 ever produced more power was between 3100-3400 rpm and that was like 1-2 hp and 7-9lbs of TQ. I also believe at such a low RPM the way I rolled on the the power could have made the difference. One more thing, those were corrected numbers and both at 17 PSI...
Got this from another site. There it is. Plain and simple, flat out. -Mat-
 
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 02:40 AM
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 02:44 AM
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some people have no lifes
 
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 03:03 AM
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Originally posted by eatoncharged
some people have no lifes
Who eaton>??? Did you or did you not say what I have quoted below>??? You asked for it, I found. No need to be upset about it man.

well to be honest it would be nice to have someone come in and show some solid numbers, i know someone did on another site, but some comparitive numbers, like 14 lbs with eaton 14lbs with the 112 and the KB.
There you are asking for solid numbers. I found them, now I need to get a life>??? Come on man. -Mat-
 
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 03:09 AM
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okay you know what mat, number one that comment wasnt meant towards you, second what foundation are those numbers on? i can sit here and bull**** you just as much and have just as much proof with the post you just threw up by saying
"heres what i noticed, my 112 gained 420 hp and 69lbft over the ****ty KB i just tried"

when i say someone compare i mean someone reputable.
 
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