Newbie introduction, and one question..
Newbie introduction, and one question..
I am new to this board, and was told this was the place to be since I bought a lightning on Fri. I bought an 02, stock with 17k on it.
I got the lightning as my daily, and once my other car is up and running again I will probably start modding the Lightning as well.
I am completely new to modding domestics as I have always modded imports. My other car is a single turbo Lexus SC300. It has ended up getting a little over the top, and that is why I got the L... reliable daily, something to mod a bit, and to tow the Lexus.
I don't know why you would but if you ever have any Supra/Lexus/RX7 questions let me know, and I will try and help
The one question I have is is anyone making 500 RWHP/500 RWTQ on pump gas in this truck yet? That is my goal and I am just curious to see how people are getting there.
-Ethan
I got the lightning as my daily, and once my other car is up and running again I will probably start modding the Lightning as well.
I am completely new to modding domestics as I have always modded imports. My other car is a single turbo Lexus SC300. It has ended up getting a little over the top, and that is why I got the L... reliable daily, something to mod a bit, and to tow the Lexus.
I don't know why you would but if you ever have any Supra/Lexus/RX7 questions let me know, and I will try and help

The one question I have is is anyone making 500 RWHP/500 RWTQ on pump gas in this truck yet? That is my goal and I am just curious to see how people are getting there.
-Ethan
Re: Newbie introduction, and one question..
Originally posted by Ebanks
The one question I have is is anyone making 500 RWHP/500 RWTQ on pump gas in this truck yet? That is my goal and I am just curious to see how people are getting there.
The one question I have is is anyone making 500 RWHP/500 RWTQ on pump gas in this truck yet? That is my goal and I am just curious to see how people are getting there.
-400/500
-450/550
-500/600
-550/650
-600/700
Noone makes even hp/tq........so if 500hp is what you want........yes there are people who are making 500/600 on pump gas. But it is not cheap to do
--Joe
Well, how do I get there?
The Lexus recipe was Speed Pro, SP88, Turbo 400 trans, 200 spool up shot, built motor, etc., etc. so I am not opposed to some expense
(982 RWHP, 750 RWTQ)
The main thing is I want it to be reliable on pump gas in this trim, so is this possible, and does the tranny crap on itself when you do this?
-Ethan

The Lexus recipe was Speed Pro, SP88, Turbo 400 trans, 200 spool up shot, built motor, etc., etc. so I am not opposed to some expense
(982 RWHP, 750 RWTQ)The main thing is I want it to be reliable on pump gas in this trim, so is this possible, and does the tranny crap on itself when you do this?

-Ethan
For reliability, you'll want to get a built motor for that kind of power. A stock motor can take 500/600, but only for so long.
Here is a quick run down of parts you'll need to acomplish that goal (parts and prices pulled from Power Surge Performance (PSP)):
$1875 - Complete PSP Lower End Package
$ 999 - Complete PSP/NX Nitrous Package (150 Shot)
$ 700 - Bassani Cat Back Exhaust
$ 565 - Bassani High Flow Cats
$ 425 - PSP 4-Program Autologic Chip
$ 279 - Truck - Tracks Traction Bars
$ 260 - PSP 6Lb Lower Pulley w/ Belt & Tool Kit
$ 200 - PSP Fresh Air System Technology Air System
$ 179 - Lightning High Flow Filter Kits
$ 70 - PSP Gen 2 Drive Shaft Loop
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$5643
That will get you into the 11's consistantly and reliably with a set of slicks. BUT! You will still need to get the transmission harden. This could be something simple from a Vavle Body, or may need to the entire thing re-built. There are still other things that you could do like electric fans, electric water pump, Cams, Single Blade T/B, Bigger heat exchanger and so forth.
Other good tuners for the Lightning/Harley/Cobra are JLP, JDM, and REM.
It's all up to you and how much your willing to spend... But remember, you will have to pay to play.
Here is a quick run down of parts you'll need to acomplish that goal (parts and prices pulled from Power Surge Performance (PSP)):
$1875 - Complete PSP Lower End Package
$ 999 - Complete PSP/NX Nitrous Package (150 Shot)
$ 700 - Bassani Cat Back Exhaust
$ 565 - Bassani High Flow Cats
$ 425 - PSP 4-Program Autologic Chip
$ 279 - Truck - Tracks Traction Bars
$ 260 - PSP 6Lb Lower Pulley w/ Belt & Tool Kit
$ 200 - PSP Fresh Air System Technology Air System
$ 179 - Lightning High Flow Filter Kits
$ 70 - PSP Gen 2 Drive Shaft Loop
----------------------------
$5643
That will get you into the 11's consistantly and reliably with a set of slicks. BUT! You will still need to get the transmission harden. This could be something simple from a Vavle Body, or may need to the entire thing re-built. There are still other things that you could do like electric fans, electric water pump, Cams, Single Blade T/B, Bigger heat exchanger and so forth.
Other good tuners for the Lightning/Harley/Cobra are JLP, JDM, and REM.
It's all up to you and how much your willing to spend... But remember, you will have to pay to play.
Last edited by Lightning Boy; Jun 16, 2003 at 04:37 PM.
Re: Newbie introduction, and one question..
Originally posted by Ebanks
...The one question I have is is anyone making 500 RWHP/500 RWTQ on pump gas in this truck yet? ...
...The one question I have is is anyone making 500 RWHP/500 RWTQ on pump gas in this truck yet? ...
If you want powerfull and reliable you are going to have to a get a build block to help prevent turning it into swiss cheese.
But for power adders, get a KB blower and chip and be done with it. If I ever got another L, that would be the route I would take.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lightning Boy
[B]
$1875 - Complete PSP Lower End Package
$ 999 - Complete PSP/NX Nitrous Package (150 Shot)
$ 700 - Bassani Cat Back Exhaust
$ 565 - Bassani High Flow Cats
$ 425 - PSP 4-Program Autologic Chip
$ 279 - Truck - Tracks Traction Bars
$ 260 - PSP 6Lb Lower Pulley w/ Belt & Tool Kit
$ 200 - PSP Fresh Air System Technology Air System
$ 179 - Lightning High Flow Filter Kits
$ 70 - PSP Gen 2 Drive Shaft Loop
----------------------------
$5643
Don't forget labor, unless you have the knowledge and patience to build a modular motor yourself. A built shortblock alone will cost 3500-4000 dollars.
As for your Lexus, got any pics? And an entire list of mods? Sounds like quite a car....
[B]
$1875 - Complete PSP Lower End Package
$ 999 - Complete PSP/NX Nitrous Package (150 Shot)
$ 700 - Bassani Cat Back Exhaust
$ 565 - Bassani High Flow Cats
$ 425 - PSP 4-Program Autologic Chip
$ 279 - Truck - Tracks Traction Bars
$ 260 - PSP 6Lb Lower Pulley w/ Belt & Tool Kit
$ 200 - PSP Fresh Air System Technology Air System
$ 179 - Lightning High Flow Filter Kits
$ 70 - PSP Gen 2 Drive Shaft Loop
----------------------------
$5643
Don't forget labor, unless you have the knowledge and patience to build a modular motor yourself. A built shortblock alone will cost 3500-4000 dollars.
As for your Lexus, got any pics? And an entire list of mods? Sounds like quite a car....
Thanks for the replies guys... I don't really want to spray this truck, as I am not a big fan of spraying much more than a 50-75 shot on pump gas, and even then I really prefer 100 or 104.
With a built motor will the KB blower really produce these kinds of numbers on 93 octane?
As far as the lex goes, here is a list of mods:
Fully Race Ported Head
Custom Tubular Turbo Manifold
Custom SP Intake Manifold
Custom 3.5" Turbo Back Exhaust
Custom Larger Diameter Head Studs
Custom Washers and Nuts
Custom Twin Entry Fuel Rail
160 lbs/hr injectors (roughly 1600+cc)
Twin Walbro 255 LPH In Tank Pumps
Larger 85mm Throttle Body
Greddy Pistons
Pauter Rods
Custom underground crank with clevite bearings
Supra TT 6 Speed LSD Rear End
Custom Driveshaft
SP400 3 speed manual valve body transmission upgrade
Speed Pro/FAST Engine Management
Custom Distributorless Ignition Setup
Unorthodox underdrive pullies
A/C delete
Custom NHRA Certified Chromoly Roll Cage (through the dash, not around it)
Greddy 3 Row Front Mount Intercooler
HKS GT 60mm Wastegate
SP88 Turbo (based on a PTE88)
Custom Direct port dry 200 shot nitrous setup
Supra TT brake upgrade (front and rear)
Volk Millenium Edition TE37s
CCW Skinnies for the front
Supra NA Wheels With ET Streets
DEFI Boost, EGT, Fuel Pressure, and Tach
Crower 272 Cams
Custom Crank Trigger
Oil Passage Modifying
Battery Relocation
Master Power Cutoff Outside Car
Greddy Type-R BOV
Custom IC Pipes
Custom Rear Seat (to fit around cage)
Autometer Nitrous and Brake Pressure
Titan Line Lock Kit
NX Billet Nitrous Bottle Brackets
AEM Cam Gears
-6 AN Fuel Lines
-6 AN Fittings (Fuel, Oil, etc.)
TT Valve Covers (Custom Poweder Coated)
TT Spark Plug Cover
Custom Polish and Relocation of Power Steering Resevoir
MSD DIS-4
Powerhouse Solid Motor Mounts
I have some pics, but I don't see an option to upload them here, and I don't have webspace anywhere
-Ethan
With a built motor will the KB blower really produce these kinds of numbers on 93 octane?
As far as the lex goes, here is a list of mods:
Fully Race Ported Head
Custom Tubular Turbo Manifold
Custom SP Intake Manifold
Custom 3.5" Turbo Back Exhaust
Custom Larger Diameter Head Studs
Custom Washers and Nuts
Custom Twin Entry Fuel Rail
160 lbs/hr injectors (roughly 1600+cc)
Twin Walbro 255 LPH In Tank Pumps
Larger 85mm Throttle Body
Greddy Pistons
Pauter Rods
Custom underground crank with clevite bearings
Supra TT 6 Speed LSD Rear End
Custom Driveshaft
SP400 3 speed manual valve body transmission upgrade
Speed Pro/FAST Engine Management
Custom Distributorless Ignition Setup
Unorthodox underdrive pullies
A/C delete
Custom NHRA Certified Chromoly Roll Cage (through the dash, not around it)
Greddy 3 Row Front Mount Intercooler
HKS GT 60mm Wastegate
SP88 Turbo (based on a PTE88)
Custom Direct port dry 200 shot nitrous setup
Supra TT brake upgrade (front and rear)
Volk Millenium Edition TE37s
CCW Skinnies for the front
Supra NA Wheels With ET Streets
DEFI Boost, EGT, Fuel Pressure, and Tach
Crower 272 Cams
Custom Crank Trigger
Oil Passage Modifying
Battery Relocation
Master Power Cutoff Outside Car
Greddy Type-R BOV
Custom IC Pipes
Custom Rear Seat (to fit around cage)
Autometer Nitrous and Brake Pressure
Titan Line Lock Kit
NX Billet Nitrous Bottle Brackets
AEM Cam Gears
-6 AN Fuel Lines
-6 AN Fittings (Fuel, Oil, etc.)
TT Valve Covers (Custom Poweder Coated)
TT Spark Plug Cover
Custom Polish and Relocation of Power Steering Resevoir
MSD DIS-4
Powerhouse Solid Motor Mounts
I have some pics, but I don't see an option to upload them here, and I don't have webspace anywhere

-Ethan
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Originally posted by Ebanks
Thanks for the replies guys... I don't really want to spray this truck, as I am not a big fan of spraying much more than a 50-75 shot on pump gas, and even then I really prefer 100 or 104.
With a built motor will the KB blower really produce these kinds of numbers on 93 octane?
I have some pics, but I don't see an option to upload them here, and I don't have webspace anywhere
Thanks for the replies guys... I don't really want to spray this truck, as I am not a big fan of spraying much more than a 50-75 shot on pump gas, and even then I really prefer 100 or 104.
With a built motor will the KB blower really produce these kinds of numbers on 93 octane?
I have some pics, but I don't see an option to upload them here, and I don't have webspace anywhere
Shoot me an e-mail with the pictures and ill get then hosted for ya.
mustang73@houston.rr.com
Tommy
Last edited by Lightning Boy; Jun 16, 2003 at 04:50 PM.
I'm pretty sure these were with 93. I may of put in some C16, but I don't think so. If I did it wasn't needed. I have run 22psi(2.5" upper and 2lb lower) with the chip(JL diablo) I used on these dyno runs with the timing at 14°(street side) on 93 octane with no problems.
Ebanks,
I thought I recognized you from somewhere! I've been on supraforums for years but never really posted much. Welcome to the board, I'm new here myself. I remember when you first started the SC300 project, good to see that it turned out well (maybe a little too well haha). Good luck with the Lightning!
Justin
I thought I recognized you from somewhere! I've been on supraforums for years but never really posted much. Welcome to the board, I'm new here myself. I remember when you first started the SC300 project, good to see that it turned out well (maybe a little too well haha). Good luck with the Lightning!
Justin
Welcome Ebanks. Got any vids of that bad boy Supra?
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BTW: You can open a "gallery" here and post pics that way.
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BTW: You can open a "gallery" here and post pics that way.
Ethan,
Recognize your name from way back when on the forums.
The car you've been building with SP is going to be a beast without a doubt. Too bad it's not in the body of an MKIV
Other than some reminiscing, I can't be of too much help.
It seems like you've tried it all in the import world, RX-7s, Supras, NSX's, and more, but the Lightning is definately a different ball game.
I have an 01 L as my daily driver and tow vehicle for my lowly BPU 6-speed (for now)l. It's pretty stock at the moment but hasn't given me any real problems.
A few more rattles here and there then your average Toyota, but other than that, it's been mechanically sound for 30K miles.
Good luck...theres plenty of advice to be had on this forum.
Recognize your name from way back when on the forums.
The car you've been building with SP is going to be a beast without a doubt. Too bad it's not in the body of an MKIV

Other than some reminiscing, I can't be of too much help.
It seems like you've tried it all in the import world, RX-7s, Supras, NSX's, and more, but the Lightning is definately a different ball game.
I have an 01 L as my daily driver and tow vehicle for my lowly BPU 6-speed (for now)l. It's pretty stock at the moment but hasn't given me any real problems.
A few more rattles here and there then your average Toyota, but other than that, it's been mechanically sound for 30K miles.
Good luck...theres plenty of advice to be had on this forum.




is that a mod list, that may almost be longer then easter's