Hmmm looks like I need to save up a bit more money.

What hardware did he use on the built motor? Built shortblock I assume?

a built shortblock would be around 3500-4000 (at least at race-related), and going the conventional way of a Works or KB can be anywhere from 3000+. So the package is about 3k more?

How much boost at those hp levels? Whose chip/tune?

 

I cant answer those details but I do know he doesnt run any chip.The guy is an engine builder and tuner.He builds motors himself inhouse and doesnt send them out to be built.He also tunes these motors without using chips.I didnt know that could be done but I have seen the results on a few trucks he has tuned.He does some wild things no one else does that I know of.

 

I wouldn't go that far.. There's a few Gen 1's that are alot crazyer than that thing, by a long shot..

Lets for example bring up Rich's Gen 1.. The thing makes 1200 ft-lbs of torque with less than 6psi of boost.. And will annihilate the tires at 50MPH in third gear(that's like 2300RPM)..

When he finally gets to turn up the boost he'll be pushing around 1300-1400HP I would think, and he drives it on the street..

With a street tune, 3.5psi, and 91 octane the thing made around 850HP and around 1000 ft-lbs of torque..

 

It also looks like he's running the stock intercooler.. That's the first thing I would have changed, or atleast run another one... Hot air is bad air..

Also, come to think of it.. What has he done to the computer? Ford computers don't run Low Impedance injectors, and there's no such thing as a 83 lb High Impedance injector. So he's either running a convertor box(they make them) or he's NOT running a factory Ford computer...

Also does that 10k for the kit include the fuel system? That right there's another 1500 or so(Weldon pumps are $$$)...

 

HOLY ***! 1200 ft lbs torque? Is this the 1st gen that ran like a 7 second quarter? red one? I caught a glimpse of something like that online once, but i thought it was mostly nos but it was still street drivable on pump gas. Any link for the info on this truck because those numbers are insane.

 

Nope, your thinking of Jason Brown.. His truck was pushing around 1800-2000 HP, his new setup is good for alittle more than that. That's trucks not streetable.. Also he wasn't running any nitrous. His first setup was a T91 turbo(7.88 ET), and his last setup was twin T81's.

The truck I was talking about is Turbo598 on nloc. It's a 598CID turbo'd truck with a C6 and a Gear Vendors OD unit..

 

man i need to read up on turbos, i thought s/c was strictly where it was at.

 

I wonder what it does in the quarter?

 

They are, at least for the street in a 5,000 lb truck. Turbos (and centrifugal s/c's) make their power on the top end. Not the ideal setup for a heavy vehicle, but awesome for a race car.

Roots (and twin screws) provide nearly linear boost, which means you have that nice, fat bottom end for everyday driveability (and mean hole shots).

But turbos can be very efficient and you can run a much larger trubo without surging due to the blowoff valves. A well-tuned turbo setup can provide monster power on the top end.



This torque curve appears to be remarkably flat for a turbo. And the way the power drops off so quickly at the top end is curious.

 

you know thats what i figured. Ive seen some imports pulling up to 1000 hp on the dyno with twin or 3 turbos but in the end, they seem to struggle to pull 10's on the quarter. I love american torque monsters and having 1000hp on those better land you in and below the 10's so its always throws me. But that 7.88 without nos on turbo, thats how it should be. Im thinking maybe these are manuals so that lets you drop clutch hence the awesome et? Or one really good tq converter.

 

Why does the HP and Torque cross at 4600 rpms?

 

because the numbers on the sides dont line up.

 

No offense but you are reading the graph lines backwards

 

There were billet rods installed,CP 17cc dish pistons,and I had the block cryoed,these numbers were acquired at 25psi and a 75 shot.I am using a stock timing curve for a lightning and a Pro-M remote air optimizer for the fuel curve with a rising rate weldon regulator with low impedance 83lb. injector.

James

 

I am not sure what pic you are looking at,we change the configuration all the time.There is no intercooler on it at this time,we rely on a water/methanol system from Snow performance and Nitrous oxide to cool the charge.It is a 83lb. low impedance injector with a resistor box inline that I made for this application.It is also the factory EEC V pcm.

James