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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 10:07 AM
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You ALL want to see this, Main Bearing Bolts Backing out "BY THEMSELVES"

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Truck: 2002 Harley-Davidson


This engine was asembled incorrectly at the factory. 2 main bolts fell out and a third was unscrewed about 1 inch. Properly torqued and stretched main bolts do not fall out. Ford had written this failure off as a "Chip caused Faiulure" without even looking at the engine. After threatening to sue, Ford Rep decided he should look into the engine and prove that the chip caused the failure, What a surprise to find the main bolts in the bottom of the oil pan. This truck has been in the shop since Dec. 14, 2002, sitting there without Ford even looking at the engine. I have stated all along that a chip cannot cause an engine to break a rod. Ford would have written this off and gone their merry way, had I not made enough waves to force them to look at the engine. I thank Anthony Gray, of Gray Ford in DeRidder, La, without his help, Ford would never have looked into this engine without a law suit..
DT

This is where a main bolt should reside, or maybe it did, at one time.



These 2 main bolts found in the oil pan show excellent threads, no metal in the threads, why is that significant, it shows that the bolts backed out, not stripped.




This shows a thrid main bolt backing out.
 

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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 10:15 AM
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I've stated it before:

Deny first, then see who really cries and fix theirs.

Ford's Warranty is a JOKE.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 10:31 AM
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WOW....

i've seen toddlers put tinker toys together better than this!
 
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 10:50 AM
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Scary Schitt right cyntaxx

The only good news is, no two are a like
some seem to last forever, some will blow in 10 minutes
I think I got me a good one ""Thank God""

Love my L
But Ford needs some serious changes
 

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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 10:53 AM
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There is a long thread over on FTW about what Cajun went through to finally get his engine replaced.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 11:54 AM
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Rob,

FORD HAS NO QUALITY CONTROL AT ALL

C'mon Rob, even you can't believe a statement like that. What company do you work for? Is all of the company's work perfect and without flaws? I don't think so. Ford has their share of problems, but they are no worse than many other companies out there. Ford makes a good product for it's price.

As far as the Cobra guy, that sucks, and I'm glad it worked out for him. The bottom line, whether it be Ford, Whirlpool, Pioneer Electronics etc., we need to be educated on our products and know what to do to get warranty coverage on things we purchase.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 11:59 AM
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this is good ****!!
 
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 12:03 PM
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Theres a member of my club with a 2002 L. His engine lasted exactly 2000 milles.

He vented his block going from a 4# to a 6#...

Guess what? His rod bolts were backing out.. 2 were already in the pan. Dont know if Ford is covering it.

This happened in January. What was the build date of the guys harley up above Rob?
 
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 12:23 PM
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Your right MaxTorque02,

It's not fair for me to say that,
Can I get a do-over
I'll Edit it


But they way I see it is like this.

Tons spit Plugs
Tons have the leaking Head Gasket
Lots Throw Rods

With these 3 serious ""KNOWN AND PLENTYFUL" Failures

The least Ford can do is admit a problem and fix it
EVEN WITH MOD'S
Unless they can truly blame it on the Mod's
Main Bearing Bolts falling out "MODDED OR NOT"
is not from too much boost

Just in this post alone, we're find two 02 HD's with Main Bearing Bolts in the oil Pan. Come on, there is no excuse for that.
Whats even worse is that it means once again another year with Motor problems. That may come down to something as simple as them using the wrong bolts or not making them tight enough
 
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by Rob_02Lightning
Your right MaxTorque02,

It's not fair for me to say that,
Can I get a do-over
I'll Edit it


But they way I see it is like this.

Tons spit Plugs
Tons have the leaking Head Gasket
Lots Throw Rods

With these 3 serious ""KNOWN AND PLENTYFUL" Failures

The least Ford can do is admit a problem and fix it
EVEN WITH MOD'S
Unless they can truly blame it on the Mod's
Main Bearing Bolts falling out "MODDED OR NOT"
is not from too much boost

Just in this post alone, we're find two 02 HD's with Main Bearing Bolts in the oil Pan. Come on, there is no excuse for that.
Whats even worse is that it means once again another year with Motor problems. That may come down to something as simple as them using the wrong bolts or not making them tight enough
 
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by MaxTorque02
The bottom line, whether it be Ford, Whirlpool, Pioneer Electronics etc., we need to be educated on our products and know what to do to get warranty coverage on things we purchase
Have an attorney on retainer?
 
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 05:31 PM
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Sorry you had problems! I'm glad you foud out and they will fix it now right?

Good luck

Suavy
 
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by CornerCarver I've stated it before: ... Ford's Warranty is a JOKE.
I second that.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 09:09 PM
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It's time to drop the oil pan and grab the torque wrench!
 
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 09:17 PM
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MaxTorque02,


Ford makes a good product for it's price.
I've been an OEM insider for over 10 years and 100% disagree with your statement.

WOT
 
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