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some of you have seen this and
some of you haven't. Gator posted it in the proper section, and didn't get much feedback. maybe everyone has already seen it on the net somewhere, or something
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Incredible article from an English paper about the USA. Just some background on the Daily Mirror, a newspaper which is published in England. It is a notorious left-wing daily and is usually very anti-American. In other words, the Daily Mirror is much like some of today's U.S. media, our own citizens, and those of some foreign countries. It's a little dated, but its words ring true today. ==================================================
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September 11, 2002. ONE year ago, the world witnessed a unique kind of
broadcasting - the mass murder of thousands, live on television. As a
lesson in the pitiless cruelty of the human race, September 11 was up there
with Pol Pot's mountain of skulls in Cambodia, or the skeletal bodies
stacked like garbage in the **** concentration camps. An unspeakable act so
cruel, so calculated and so utterly merciless that surely the world could
agree on one thing - nobody deserves this fate.
Surely there could be consensus: the victims were truly innocent, the
perpetrators truly evil. But to the world's eternal shame, 9/11 is
increasingly seen as America's comeuppance. Incredibly, anti- Americanism
has increased over the last year.
There has always been a simmering resentment to the USA in this country -
too loud, too rich, too full of themselves and so much happier than
Europeans - but it has become an epidemic. And it seems incredible to me.
More than that, it turns my stomach. America is this country's greatest
friend and our staunchest ally. We are bonded to the US by culture,
language and blood.
A little over half a century ago, around half a million Americans died for
our freedoms, as well as their own. Have we forgotten so soon? And exactly
a year ago, thousands of ordinary men, women and children - not just
Americans, but from dozens of countries - were butchered by a small group
of religious fanatics. Are we so quick to b! etray them?
What touched the heart about those who died in the twin towers and on the
planes was that we recognized them. Young fathers and mothers, somebody's
son and somebody's daughter, husbands and wives. And children. Some unborn.
And these people brought it on themselves? And their nation is to blame for
their meticulously planned slaughter?
These days you don't have to be some dust-encrusted nut job in Kabul or
Karachi or Finsbury Park to see America as the Great Satan. The anti-
American alliance is made up of self-loathing liberals who blame the
Americans for every ill in the Third World, and conservatives suffering
from power-envy, bitter that the world's only superpower can do what it
likes without having to ask permission.
The truth is that America has behaved with enormous restraint since
September 11. Remember, remember.
Remember the gut-wrenching tapes of weeping men phoning their wives to say,
"I love you," before they were burned alive. Remember those people leaping
to their deaths from the top of burning skyscrapers.
Remember the hundreds of firemen buried alive. Remember the smiling face of
that beautiful little girl who was on one of the planes with her mum.
Remember, remember - and realize that America has never retaliated for 9/11
in anything like the way it could have.
So a few al-Qaeda tourists got locked without a trial in Camp X-ray? Pass
the Kleenex. So some Afghan wedding receptions were shot up after they
merrily fired their semi-automatics in a sky full of American planes? A
shame, but maybe next time they should stick to confetti.
AMERICA could have turned a large chunk of the world into a parking lot.
That it didn't is a sign of strength. American voices are already being
raised against attacking Iraq - that's what a democracy is for. How many in
the Islamic world will have a minute's silence for the slaughtered
innocents of 9/11? How many Islamic leaders will have the guts to say th! at
the mass murder of 9/11 was an abomination?
When the news of 9/11 broke on the West Bank, those freedom-loving
Palestinians were dancing in the street. America watched all of that - and
didn't push the button. We should thank the stars that America is the most
powerful nation in the world. I still find it incredible that 9/11 did not
provoke all-out war. Not a "war on terrorism". A real war.
The fundamentalist dudes are talking about "opening the gates of hell", if
America attacks Iraq. Well, America could have opened the gates of hell
like you wouldn't believe. The US is the most militarily powerful nation
that ever strode the face of the earth. The campaign in Afghanistan may
have been less than perfect and the planned war on Iraq may be
misconceived. But don't blame America for not bringing peace and light to
these wretched countries. How many democracies are there in the Middle
East, or in the Muslim world? You can count them on the fingers of one hand
- assuming you haven't had any chopped off for minor shoplifting.
I love America, yet America is hated. I guess that makes me Bush's poodle.
But I would rather be a dog in New York City than a Prince in Riyadh.
Above all, America is hated because it is what every country wants to be -
rich, free, strong, open, optimistic.
Not ground down by the past, or religion, or some caste system. America is
the best friend this country ever had and we should start remembering that.
Or do you really think the USA is the root of all evil? Tell it to the
loved ones of the men and women who leaped to their death from the burning
towers. Tell it to the nursing mothers whose husbands died on one of the
hijacked planes, or were ripped apart in a collapsing skyscraper. And tell
it to the hundreds of young widows whose husbands
worked for the New York Fire Department. To our shame, George Bush gets a
worse press than Saddam Hussein.
Once we were told that Saddam gassed the K! urds, tortured his own people and
set up rape-camps in Kuwait. Now we are told he likes Quality Street. Save
me the orange centre, oh mighty one!
Remember, remember, September 11. One of the greatest atrocities in human
history was committed against America.
No, do more than remember. Never forget.
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For Your Reading Pleasure
Incredible article from an English paper about the USA. Just some background on the Daily Mirror, a newspaper which is published in England. It is a notorious left-wing daily and is usually very anti-American. In other words, the Daily Mirror is much like some of today's U.S. media, our own citizens, and those of some foreign countries. It's a little dated, but its words ring true today. ==================================================
=========================
September 11, 2002. ONE year ago, the world witnessed a unique kind of
broadcasting - the mass murder of thousands, live on television. As a
lesson in the pitiless cruelty of the human race, September 11 was up there
with Pol Pot's mountain of skulls in Cambodia, or the skeletal bodies
stacked like garbage in the **** concentration camps. An unspeakable act so
cruel, so calculated and so utterly merciless that surely the world could
agree on one thing - nobody deserves this fate.
Surely there could be consensus: the victims were truly innocent, the
perpetrators truly evil. But to the world's eternal shame, 9/11 is
increasingly seen as America's comeuppance. Incredibly, anti- Americanism
has increased over the last year.
There has always been a simmering resentment to the USA in this country -
too loud, too rich, too full of themselves and so much happier than
Europeans - but it has become an epidemic. And it seems incredible to me.
More than that, it turns my stomach. America is this country's greatest
friend and our staunchest ally. We are bonded to the US by culture,
language and blood.
A little over half a century ago, around half a million Americans died for
our freedoms, as well as their own. Have we forgotten so soon? And exactly
a year ago, thousands of ordinary men, women and children - not just
Americans, but from dozens of countries - were butchered by a small group
of religious fanatics. Are we so quick to b! etray them?
What touched the heart about those who died in the twin towers and on the
planes was that we recognized them. Young fathers and mothers, somebody's
son and somebody's daughter, husbands and wives. And children. Some unborn.
And these people brought it on themselves? And their nation is to blame for
their meticulously planned slaughter?
These days you don't have to be some dust-encrusted nut job in Kabul or
Karachi or Finsbury Park to see America as the Great Satan. The anti-
American alliance is made up of self-loathing liberals who blame the
Americans for every ill in the Third World, and conservatives suffering
from power-envy, bitter that the world's only superpower can do what it
likes without having to ask permission.
The truth is that America has behaved with enormous restraint since
September 11. Remember, remember.
Remember the gut-wrenching tapes of weeping men phoning their wives to say,
"I love you," before they were burned alive. Remember those people leaping
to their deaths from the top of burning skyscrapers.
Remember the hundreds of firemen buried alive. Remember the smiling face of
that beautiful little girl who was on one of the planes with her mum.
Remember, remember - and realize that America has never retaliated for 9/11
in anything like the way it could have.
So a few al-Qaeda tourists got locked without a trial in Camp X-ray? Pass
the Kleenex. So some Afghan wedding receptions were shot up after they
merrily fired their semi-automatics in a sky full of American planes? A
shame, but maybe next time they should stick to confetti.
AMERICA could have turned a large chunk of the world into a parking lot.
That it didn't is a sign of strength. American voices are already being
raised against attacking Iraq - that's what a democracy is for. How many in
the Islamic world will have a minute's silence for the slaughtered
innocents of 9/11? How many Islamic leaders will have the guts to say th! at
the mass murder of 9/11 was an abomination?
When the news of 9/11 broke on the West Bank, those freedom-loving
Palestinians were dancing in the street. America watched all of that - and
didn't push the button. We should thank the stars that America is the most
powerful nation in the world. I still find it incredible that 9/11 did not
provoke all-out war. Not a "war on terrorism". A real war.
The fundamentalist dudes are talking about "opening the gates of hell", if
America attacks Iraq. Well, America could have opened the gates of hell
like you wouldn't believe. The US is the most militarily powerful nation
that ever strode the face of the earth. The campaign in Afghanistan may
have been less than perfect and the planned war on Iraq may be
misconceived. But don't blame America for not bringing peace and light to
these wretched countries. How many democracies are there in the Middle
East, or in the Muslim world? You can count them on the fingers of one hand
- assuming you haven't had any chopped off for minor shoplifting.
I love America, yet America is hated. I guess that makes me Bush's poodle.
But I would rather be a dog in New York City than a Prince in Riyadh.
Above all, America is hated because it is what every country wants to be -
rich, free, strong, open, optimistic.
Not ground down by the past, or religion, or some caste system. America is
the best friend this country ever had and we should start remembering that.
Or do you really think the USA is the root of all evil? Tell it to the
loved ones of the men and women who leaped to their death from the burning
towers. Tell it to the nursing mothers whose husbands died on one of the
hijacked planes, or were ripped apart in a collapsing skyscraper. And tell
it to the hundreds of young widows whose husbands
worked for the New York Fire Department. To our shame, George Bush gets a
worse press than Saddam Hussein.
Once we were told that Saddam gassed the K! urds, tortured his own people and
set up rape-camps in Kuwait. Now we are told he likes Quality Street. Save
me the orange centre, oh mighty one!
Remember, remember, September 11. One of the greatest atrocities in human
history was committed against America.
No, do more than remember. Never forget.
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Im not one to entirely agree with the article, but its well written and has very valid points. I've always said that people in this country live in denial, using news like fads for discussions. In that sense we simply jump on to the next topic like the first never happened. Nothing is real to us anymore, its just pictures on a screen.
Good post, both gator and mrbbqman for bringing it back up, im at work but ill reread it at home.
Good post, both gator and mrbbqman for bringing it back up, im at work but ill reread it at home.
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Best post ever i agree to. I say anyone in this country that is against the war should get deported. I could see the smoke from the world trade center on 9/11 from my job. Then on the drive home from work i could see it more and more as i got closer. Im 15 mins from the city and when you are that close to all that devastation its unbelieveable. It looked like an atom bomb went off. All those people that died that day all they were doing was going to work. I for one cant wait for the bombs to start dropping over there. I hope they bomb iraq until the sand turns into glass and we can see the oil.
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September 11 2001 is the day I will never forget from 2 aspects. The W.T.C issue and that is the day I started for Smith International (Smith Bits)
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AMEN!! America has forgotten how angry we were that day when we watched our homeland under fire. I wish so much that all Americans would put their faith in W, cause this man is patient but serious. He's the type of guy that would pick up the gun and get the job done himself. I respect him.
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SCREW THE DIXIE CHICKS!! AND THE OTHER IDIOT BANDS AND MOVIE STARS!!
THem jacka$$'s blew up our trade center..thats the bottom line..We should bomb them everywhere they run til they are all dead!!
Then let GOD deal with them..!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THem jacka$$'s blew up our trade center..thats the bottom line..We should bomb them everywhere they run til they are all dead!!
Then let GOD deal with them..!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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THem jacka$$'s blew up our trade center..thats the bottom line..We should bomb them everywhere they run til they are all dead!!
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How can people hate this country. I am Mexican born here in the U.S.. I love this country, it gave my parents the oppurtunuty to make something out of there lives, and also with me. We Mexicans have been criticised by many. My mother had uncles that fought in WW2, I have uncles that fought in Vietnam. I myself voluntered for dessert storm, due to a few mistakes I did in my life I couldnt go, presently I have a cousin patroling on a U.S. Navy carrier. So how can people hate this country when all we want is peace. About this war im with it, and I hope this time its done the right way.