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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 12:14 PM
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Intercooler/heat exchanger idea.

I was thinking since I don't drive the truck much in winter I probably don't need a heater. Do you guys think it may be beneficial to route the hoses from the upper heat exchanger to go into the cab heat exchanger then out to the lower intercooler and pump?
I could turn on the heater and the heater fan may be able to get rid of some extra heat. Also I would be getting rid of the metal lines attached to the supercharger which attract a lot of heat and restricts water(size is only 0.47 inches wide.) I would also get rid of the intercooler reservoir which restricts the water flow(I may get one with a bigger inlet tube.) The inlet for the reservoir is 0.41 inches wide. That means the water could flow through the system with the smallest tube openings being the upper heat exchanger and the pump, both which measure 0.56 inches wide.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 12:19 PM
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I think you have too much time on your hands.......

Actually I really don't think it would be that much of a benefit........but then again I switched my water pump in hopes of more umph

You sure as hell would be the first to do that......at least that we know of.

How can you tell when a person has too many mods............when they start trying to create new ones in their head

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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 12:28 PM
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I was looking at how to get more water flow. I started measuring and the difference in area between the upper heat exchanger and inlet for the reservoir is 0.45 square inches... Maybe it doesn't matter because the pump can't pump more fluid if you were to remove the restrictions, or maybe the water would flow too fast and not remove enough heat. I don't know, but I'm going to do it.

The syclone and typhoon guys remove the metal lines for their intercooler. I know they are setup a little different, but it couldn't hurt to go to a rubber line which wouldn't attract as much heat.
 

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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 05:53 PM
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Anyone else have any ideas if this would be beneficial or not?
 
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 08:35 PM
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I don't see it hurting? its basically a free mod, and the heater core is just a "small heat exchanger" right? try it. take some temp readings before and after to see if it drops the fluid temp any. would there be any drawback to having the heater blower motor running at full blast while running the quarter?
 
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 08:40 PM
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Might want to see if the additional load will necessitate a stronger pump for the additional heat exchanger.

Other than that, it sounds logical. If it works, make a kit out of it!
 
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 08:46 PM
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do you need a new pump for JL's power cooler? I thought they used the stock pump too....
 
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 09:28 PM
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Im all for people who wanna go beyond to make things better but all I see you doing is making a mess of your truck for basically nothing.What i like to do before moving on an idea is,Thinking it through and wieghing the pros and cons and more importantly to see if ALL that effort is really worth the dismantling of the truck.Say you happened to gain 1-2 tenths.How??,I have no idea but say you did.Is not having heat,chopping lines off, and totally screwing with a good thing really worth it?? What about that 1 time that you happen to need heat for some reason or the time when you decide to sell your truck??.......If you were say stuck at ET 11.1 and you needed just a little nudge into the 10s and you did EVERYTHING else that we know works,THEN I can see trying something newto this extent..There has to be an easier,smarter way to try and gain power.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by Lightningquick
Im all for people who wanna go beyond to make things better but all I see you doing is making a mess of your truck for basically nothing.What i like to do before moving on an idea is,Thinking it through and wieghing the pros and cons and more importantly to see if ALL that effort is really worth the dismantling of the truck.Say you happened to gain 1-2 tenths.How??,I have no idea but say you did.Is not having heat,chopping lines off, and totally screwing with a good thing really worth it?? What about that 1 time that you happen to need heat for some reason or the time when you decide to sell your truck??.......If you were say stuck at ET 11.1 and you needed just a little nudge into the 10s and you did EVERYTHING else that we know works,THEN I can see trying something newto this extent..There has to be an easier,smarter way to try and gain power.
Is this irreversible? Maybe Autozone won't be selling heater hose in two or three months.

I have a KB on order, I have an NX nitrous kit and an NOS kit, ported heads, long tubes, gutted cats, underdrive pulleys, lightweight seats, oversize valves, windage tray, relocated battery, roll pan, light weight wheels. Maybe I should get a new front suspension and save a couple of hundred pounds...

Here is the point, this is an easy, cheap, reversible way to lower intercooler temps.

Noelvm says that he gets -0.1 et for every 10 degrees drop in intercooler fluid temperature.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 12:57 PM
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I think this would be a workable mod

You could cap off the inlet and outlet on the engine for the heater hoses, and then put the hoses in a box if you ever want to go back to stock.

There are two ways you can do this

If you hook it up on the outlet side of the upper heat exchanger you would be able to get a little heat on those cool nights, by extracting the warm coolant coming out of the heat exchanger.


If you hook into the inlet side of the upper heat exchanger, you would be able to remove heat from the coolant before it goes into the upper heat exchanger. This may work better, especially when you have the engine running in the staging lane. The only problem I can see with this setup would be while driving on the street. Setup this way you would be cooling the coolant before it went through the heater core, and prob wouldn't get much heat into the cab on those cool nights.

Either way when you are in the pits you turn the intercooler pump and the heater on, to cool down the intercooler system.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 12:41 PM
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I disconnected the middle lines as they come out of the cab. I cut the lines which go from the cab heat exchanger to the intake and from the waterpump line to the cab heat exchanger. I plan on using regular heater hose to route the new lines up to the reservoir and lower heat exchanger.
 

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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 01:12 PM
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Good luck Leonard.

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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 01:28 PM
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i think i need to go to middle tennessee & hose old easter off till he snaps out of it... LOL
 
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 02:24 PM
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i think i need to go to middle tennessee & hose old easter off till he snaps out of it.
OK Brooks enough out of you..........fluid swaps.......hosing off guys.........your starting to scare me

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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 05:20 PM
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Thats a good idea, hey custom Idea's are what makes a truck unique!

I do it allot with mine.
You might aswell do the killa battery cooling mod!


I'm going to be swapping these out for yellow tops this summer and when I do that I'm going to do somthing a little more custom but I'll wait and show you guys. Should be one of a kind again and hopefully worth it.


Who could forget the custom intake pipe!




Go for it bro, no guts no glory!
 
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