I'm not sure why the note says that....they're being used in production for every 5.4 now.

There is a part # cast into the valley you can look for but another easy way to tell is by looking at the side of the block where the cross-bolts thread into the mains - the NVH blocks have a deep (approx. 1/4 inch) counterbore for the bolts whereas the older style blocks were just spotfaced in this area. Jim mentioned some of the other features several posts back.

 

I know some of the engines used different size timing cover bolts, and was this the same for the 5.4 4V?

I don’t want to have to buy a timing cover as well.

 

Sorry, the times run on Monday do not show 560-580 hp,
they don't show "power to 5800" whatever that is supposed to mean,
they don't show 683 ft lbs of torque, period.

If you had a truck that ran 11.3x or so, you would know that your dynos would read much, much, lower. Time for *you* to get a life. Or at least a clue about power vs Et and Mph.

Did anyone else notice Doug saying that "[I], and everyone else, got off topic."? I didn't get off topic, if you looked back at my posts, I was the one keeping it ON topic and asking for dyno charts, which I still am. Everyone else was gathering around attacking me in all sorts of petty keyboard jockey ways, and not addressing the topic at hand.

Still waiting for dyno charts

 

Like I said before GFY!!!



I never said that the ET of my truck would verify anything mentioned about rwhp or rwtq. If Jim @ JDM decides to post dyno graphs he will. There is no reason to have to prove anything to you, let alone anyone else on these boards. It's sad that tuners have to go out of their way to prove anything they do to "some" uptight **** members. He didn't post anything about Paul's truck(Get-N-Go) and no one questioned those numbers! What, you didn't see those?

FYI... Jagged Edge just recently posted his dyno #'s. His rwhp/ rwtq are with a shot of nitrous. Graphs or not he is not running 11.2's at the moment.

No matter how you slice it, it will never be comparing apples to apples and some people(wonder who) will just never be satisfied.

Kevin

 

What you forget to consider is the aeodynamics of out trucks.

They are bricks, and the faster you go the more HP and TQ it takes to push them through the air. You can't just compare ET improvements of our trucks to say a mustang if you add a bunch of power.

My truck dynoed at 620RWTQ I have posted dyno graphs, and no one ever questioned my numbers. If you look at my ET's and at Skinheads you can see he is quite a bit faster than me. So it shows the dyno numbers Jim posted are infact realistic.

Dynos are cool, but they don't tell you everything, they are just a tool to aid in tunning. What counts is how the truck does on the track, and I don't see any other truck running 11.2's with a stock blower and no Nitrous. Well maybee except Paul Gamino, and he is running the same setup.

Nuff said.

 

Get the pic Don?

 

I've heard that the "NVH" block is quite a bit heavier. Can you confirm that?

If so, it makes this statement kinda funny -

"If this is truly a stronger and beefier block, I would love to use it in my 99 and throw 23lbs at her "

 

fastbolt2002,

It's obvious that you don't know how to ask a question to get results. If your an intelligent person you could do the math yourself. The truck's scaled in at just over 4600 LBS. It went 11.23@119 MPH, you do the math if you're such a genious. I am sounding like a bit of a smart *** right now but I did a search on you. At the end of a lot of your post you always throw a comment in there. If you want my honest opinion this is your second screename. I guess you're not man enough to post under your original screename. In you're post that was quoted above you said get a life. I guess your the type of person that likes to give advice but does not want to listen to his own. I will post some pictures today of the new 03 blocks, it's a shame you couldn't just be happy for the owner of the Lightning.

Jim@JDM

 

AMEN!!!!

 

Thanks for taking the time to post the pics Jim, it will save me the time involved to go look at the difference myself.

I do have one question that I hope you take with all due respect

Can you explain the difference between the combination of parts on your 01 when it went 11.40 1 1/2 years ago and Sknhds combination now? Is the difference of .17 just in the heads and cams?

Thanks in advance


IIA ASI VMF

 

Ford Part# of the New Block...



Shows the extra rib between the timing chain dowel and the edge of the block..



Shows how much beefier the block is...

 

This is Don's motor #37....



This is for JJ to show it has Manley rods in it...



The 2001 block, side skirt bolts. Shows less material than the 2003 blocks.

 

Thats what Iam talking about

**Justin..........get the pics I sent last night?**

 

Another picture of the 2001 block...



This is a pic of the 2003 block. Shows how much beefier it is around the bolts....

Jim@JDM

 

So how much heavier is it?